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Who cares about Rudd's revolution one year on?

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Gday Hasbeen well I find you one eyed too just maybe we both are.
But read Horus post above ours to see true one eyed.
Before Obama steps into office he is finished?
Rudd [68% of us say he is doing a good job] finished?
You and I look at the world differently, yes I am always willing to use humor, well have a go its called.
But am I one eyed?
In threads I started I have put the boot into my party both in NSW and federally.
I would still run[ it would be no easy task] a mile rather than talk to Simon Crean, the man who gave us an even lessor man Mad Mark Latham.
At the country conference of the ALP I requested a minister to, if he ever got the chance, push Joe T from a high place, my party would be better for it.
I am on record, and getting hits for it, saying thugs and mugs exist in the union movement , and they harm us more than bad bosses.
Not my union.
I proudly expect my movement now and long after I am dead both parliamentary and my first love the union movement to be lead ONLY by the best we have.
And do not want a workers paradise just a fair go, and honesty at work for all
Yes thinking about it mate I am one eyed.
I find great hope in men like Obama and Rudd men we will here more of like Bill Shorten and those who replaced him in the union movement.
While all are much younger than me I see the need and benefit in trusting youth.
And the wiseness in listening to people like you and I who have learned much the the school of life
regards
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 4:12:02 AM
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I see all the spin and rhetoric of his mee-too policy statements as nothing more than a “Latham-without-the-overt-intimidation”

Any “revolutionary zeal” will now be tempered as he puts all his efforts into attempting to stop the ship of state from foundering.

The one thing he has going for him, after a decade of conservative prudence, the plates of the hull as pretty sound and able to weather any storm.

I recall the stinking barge which Keating had sailed into the ground and was ready to beach in the “recession we had to have”,

If this (in economic terms) “perfect storm” had hit that ship of state, instead of the one built on the Howard legacy, there would be no options for Australia but to 'abandon ship'.

Idealistic outcomes borne from revolutions are the things of Mills and Boon novels.

The reality is invariably something less romantic, more often than not, something terrible.
Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 7:44:00 AM
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Thanks Col I get a kick out of your posts.
Your one sided view of the world.
It would be a very long wait if I watched for you to say something bad about your side of politics.
And some say I am biased?
68% that is how many support Rudd, even the Sydney daily paper, the one that makes news not reports it, said if an election was held today would increase his majority.
Seemingly backing my claims opposition for the sake of it is not winning Friends Turnbull has lost 3% of support.
How will you hide your early belief as Rudd is half way into his third term?
The world is in real trouble, still some refuse to see it.
Warnings came here in OLO.
And early last year so very many here refused to see Howard was gone.
Its time, heard that before?
To understand Obama and Rudd are going to make history, both are men of true merit.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 4:38:20 PM
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Hi Belly… I get a kick out of your one-sided view too…

68% that is how many support Rudd

Simply because someone has bribed the public with $10 billion of tax payers money to “gain a majority”, does not make for a more ethical, robust or correct decision nor does it produce one which is necessarily in either the medium or long term national / public interest.

“To understand Obama and Rudd are going to make history, both are men of true merit.”

Politicians, they all make history, that is a fact.

Problem is – who ends up paying for it?

What “quality of life” will result as a consequence of the history these men will write for us all?

Personally (and that is the perspective I always write from), the interference and profligate irresponsibility of socialist governments during my life time has only hinder and diminished the quality of life I would have otherwise achieved and been able to share with others.
Anyone who has observed the emergence of the previous Soviet satellite states of eastern Europe from under the jackboot of Socialist oppression can see that

Like dearest Margaret said “The larger the slice taken by government, the smaller the cake available for everyone."

And as far as KRudd and Co is concerned, the current matter of government instituted internet censorship –

“To be free is better than to be unfree - always. Any politician who suggests the opposite should be treated as suspect."


If you care to take your opinions of me further, I will always be happy to respond :-)
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 20 November 2008 7:53:46 AM
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Respond away Col, do not however tell me you have not formed opinions about me and any poster here.
I do, I like reading your posts, the idea that Rudd is some how socialist or in any way like communist Russia amuses me.
We Australians, from both sides of politics do in fact flirt with a form of socialism in some things.
Compare our health, education, social welfare to Americas.
It is true Col that Rudd, in a time of crisis is increasing his polling.
Surely it is true from what we now know this election was no good one to win.
20% has been lost from share prices, maybe much more soon, houses remain over priced and those not concerned should be.
Yet Rudd would increase his margin if an election was held today!
Howard until workchoices had my admiration for being what he was, a very good politician.
And those in his camp would have, did gloat, at the mess my party became under Crean and his mate Latham.
I suffered then daily.
Clearly you do now.
But the polls just as they once supported little Johny now say I am one of the large majority.
Warm and comfortable feeling Col.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 20 November 2008 5:34:43 PM
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Belly “Respond away Col, do not however tell me you have not formed opinions about me and any poster here.”

Strange comment to respond with when I wrote (see above) “I get a kick out of your one-sided view too…”

Maybe you should read what others write before you respond.

As for “Compare our health, education, social welfare to Americas.”

So what, the trouble with socialist services, the consumer is denied natural choice because what he would have had to pay for those services were expropriated in excessive taxes.

I note you make no comment on the economy, Krudd and Co are the beneficiaries of the Howard governments fiscal responsibility and from what I see are on the usual socialist reign of spending terror, where we all end up as another economic basket case, covering a budget blow-out used to fund socialist vote buying.

“And those in his camp would have, did gloat, at the mess my party became under Crean and his mate Latham.
I suffered then daily.
Clearly you do now.”

When one has faith in the merit of the process one supports, loss of election, while a mild annoyance is no basis for real suffering.

The benefit from my perspective is the opportunity offers me to expose the incompetence, hypocrisy and mediocrity of the socialists.

“But the polls just as they once supported little Johny now say I am one of the large majority.
Warm and comfortable feeling Col.”

Well good for you, I have often considered myself in the minority (the thinking minority) who see beyond the next election and beyond my own necessities.

I guess you must feel super-smug knowing you are responsible for electing an the incompetent “Mee-Too” government into the captains chair as he sails us into the abyss.

The benefits of being a libertarian capitalist, I am not hamstrung by a load of stupid dogma which erroneously believes we are all tied together, like on some sort of socialist chain-gang.

Libertarian capitalism believes we are all free to soar like eagles, instead of just gobble, like a bunch of socialist turkeys.
Posted by Col Rouge, Friday, 21 November 2008 7:34:39 AM
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