Awww Rudd schmud, revolution schmellovution! It has just been more of the same ‘çept for one thing, schmud’s even worse than schmoward!

All those that are expecting great things from Obama are shortly going to be crying; oh.... bummer!

Have I got this right? Rudd is no good because one poster is a Christian?
Heard about judge not less ye be judged?
While I do not share Rudd's Christianity it is strange that he is questioned by Christians!
Like Obama, please can we here one day debate the dreadful Medea hate and lies directed at non conservatives?
Today on the no spin lie manufacturing news channel the hatred toward Obama blamed him for the stock market crash!
Ludwig, please remember your post, I will.
Howard and Bush are gone.
If both had been replaced by trained monkeys it would be cause to rejoice.
But time will prove real men of real merit are now in control.
One of us is wrong I am content to be judged in say 2 years.
Last, sorry I have to say it, religion sneaks into near every thread.
Giving advice on every thing.
Given my view all religions are fantasy, just maybe we will not get that perfect world until man knows it is up to us to change the world not waiting for phantoms to do it for us.

But Belly, they were replaced with totally untrained monkeys, who, unfortunately for us, think they know it all.

Even more unfortunately, for many like you, with this amazing expectetion in the abilities you have endowed these blokes, the only result can be disappointment.

I hope its a soft landing for you, & your fellow travellers, those of us who don't "believe" can't afford another Whitlam.

Up the thread hasbeen I found the differences between Rudd and your champion.
In another thread I asked[ yes I was joking] are you John Howard.
I get great joy out of your posts, truly.
Every one reminds me why I live left of center.
Much closer to reality for a start.
I find it amusing that you will forget your stand in a few years, its hard to say I got it wrong.
Now not kidding this time, why do you use the tag hasbeen?
Are you indeed one of Johns fallen troops?
Not not being silly.
Your posts have the taste of todays federal opposition.
Breath holding feet stamping and rolling on the floor.
My advice is it may work in NSW after all my side is doing its best to help.
But in Canberra?
Read the polls, re read the statements Turnbull, funny that his name contains the word Bull.
Now look again and think with me on this, he can become prime minister.
IF he structures a plan that is based on policy's and future plans, no government is forever.
But he can destroy his leadership too if he continues to insult voters ability to think.
We are in the grimiest of financial times great depression not excepted we are in the worst of times, it developers still.
Yet Rudd increases his lead in the polls Obama is bound for history books as a great leader fallowing Americas worst.
Howard? may his own party not write his history, it would not be nice.

"The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away"
The liberals build a surplus, and labour goes on a spending spree…

We’re lucky ‘little Johnny’ Howard and his mob left Rudd & his Club Med cabinet a big surplus. Imagine how desperate things would be if they didn’t have all that money to throw around .

As many people in NSW are finding out, Labour’s good governance and popularity lasts about as long as their inherited bank balance, after that goes, it’s down hill all the way.

Belly, Belly, no I'm not John Howard, although I would be proud to have done such a good job of managing something as well as he did Oz. God protect me from orators, & charismatic leaders, I want a manager. It is my experience that few people are given more than one great talent, & we have all ready seen the best of Rudd, & Obama, its all down hill for them, [& us], now.

Turnbull's not a bad orator, so probably enough said. I can see no reason to believe he would be any better than Rudd, except he may not owe as many favours to as many ratbags. I think he may have a few of his own ratbag ideas, ready to produce, if he gets a chance.

I'm damned if I know who would do a good job, for us right now, but it sure aint Rudd, or Turnbull. Still the poms survived WW11, with that old idiot orator Churchill, so we may get through.

In his old age, the man I respected most in this world had a saying, better a hasbeen, than a never was. Well he sure was a hasbeen, definately not a never was. He helped me become a champion, & now, 40 years later I'm proud to have achieved hasbeen status.

For those 40 years I was too busy to do more than look occasionally at Canberra & think "bl@@dy idiots", but now, unfortunately, I have time to see just how badly we are governed.

I find it amusing, that with this clarity of vision, all I have the energy to do, is tap out a few one finger words, on a keyboard.

My 40 years of effort, since I was a very poor "somebody", have left me in a position where even an idiot in Canberra should not be able to destroy my old age. It's up to my kids to plan the future.

Belly, you are so earnest, & sincere, [& one eyed], that it's hard not to have a little dig, occasionally, but no malice mate.