Kanga,
The site for that video of the Richard Gage interview is http://www.ae911truth.org

It is well worth watching.

Paul.L
'You say >> "Only explosives like thermate are capable of producing the molten steel found, not aviation fuel in WTC 1 and 2 nor office fires in WTC 7."
Thermate is not an explosive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermate'

Wikipedia says: "Thermate is a variation of thermite and is an incendiary pyrotechnic composition that can generate short bursts of exceedingly high temperatures focused on a small area for a short period of time. It is used primarily in incendiary grenades."

So it "can generate short bursts of exceedingly high temperatures focused on a small area for a short period of time", i.e. it is a type of explosive.

Note that the "full discussion of molten steel hypothesis" only refers to thermite, not thermate which also contains sulfur.

Without entering into the controversy (I haven't read myself in yet) as to whether the WTC collapses were essentially controlled demolitions, I have gained the impression that a possible role of thermate, should it have figured in the events, is somewhat misunderstood.

My reading of the Wiki article informs me that thermate is an enhancement of thermite, thermite being incendiary in nature more so than explosive.

Typically the thermite reaction is used to weld, in situ, large structural steel components. Railway line joins are a common example. The reaction both heats up the abutting structural components to what, in forging terms, would be described as welding temperature, and also deposits molten iron produced by reduction in the thermite charge into the gap. The molten iron is retained in the gap by what amounts to a foundry mould built around the joint, and the molten iron from the charge intermingles with the melt achieved on the ends of the structural members, thus effecting the weld. The joint is not required to bear load until cooled.

I should imagine that if sufficient thermite, or thermate, was to be ignited adjacent to a load bearing steel column, a sudden failure would shortly ensue. Whether such failure would be accompanied by explosion-like noise I am unsure, but I suspect it might be.

I also suspect that it may be possible to apply, or emplace, thermite to a vertical column in a manner somewhat like the operation of a thermic lance. Thermic lances are used, for example, to cut (by melting) channels in solid granite beds in the process of quarrying the stone.

I don't know whether that helps resolve anything.

Also, should it be that a controlled demolition did occur, is it a necessary corollary that it would have been effected by 'black ops' agencies of the US government?

BTW, interesting to see that it was daggett that copped the claimed suspension. I had gained the impression that it was he who had acted appropriately in seeking a new topic, and had posted consistently to it subsequently. Other things involved, perhaps.

Just by way of further clarification to my last post regarding the assisted failure of load-bearing columns via the use of thermate, I suggest it may not be necessary to melt the whole cross-section of a column to produce a failure.

I do not pretend to any engineering qualifications, nor to knowledge of the precise design of the columns in question, but it strikes me that if only sufficient of the metal and/or concrete constituting the column was melted to reduce its remaining strength to less than that required to sustain its share of the load, then there would likely occur a catastrophic failure of the remaining unmelted part of the section.

That might mean that significantly less thermate may have been required in any such scenario than might otherwise have been imagined. It would be interesting to have civil engineering views on this possibility.

I have already obliquely referred, by means of this link ( http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=2103#46421

) in a previous post, to the earlier supposedly terrorist attack upon the WTC some years before 2001. It seems appropriate to now bring it to mind explicitly in this thread, as not all viewers follow all links given. Indeed, I myself have not yet done so.

I should imagine that at least parts, if not all, of the WTC would have been on that earlier occasion evacuated and treated as a crime scene. The issue of any perpetrators of a controlled demolition having had sufficient access to the structure to emplace their preparations has legitimately been raised by other posters in this thread. I question whether the earlier incident could have constituted such opportunity.

Was I a juror, and this controversy the evidence in a trial, I would be beginning to have reasonable doubts as to whether responsibility for the event had been properly allocated.

BTW I note daggett's topic has now reached the ton in regard to the number of posts. Not that I am trying to suggest that quantity equates necessarily with quality.

Have a restful productive suspension, daggett.

Sympneology,

Sorry about the bad link, and thanks for giving the correct link.

It would be interesting to see if any of those who agree with the US government position are able to present their case as well in an interview as did Richard Gage.

Are there any other videos or audios on 9/11 that you would particularly recommend? There certainly seem to be a lot.

To go off-topic, has anyone seen Michael Moore's "Sicko"?

I wouldn't want to spoil it for anyone who has not seen it, but one of the topics dealt with is the poor treatment of many of the 9/11 rescue workers.

I am a mother, farmer, potter , have a Science degree from 25 years ago. I have believed 911 was an inside job for about 7 years. Have seen city people become extremely disconnected from nature and the bush in the last 10 years. I thought during the '90s that it was really strange where city people's thinking was going - and now we have arrived where city people believe in many lies of the criminals in the Liberal, Labor. Greens, and Nationals.
I thought the Iranian taxi driver in New York I heard as reported on AM on the 12th September 2001 was right when he said it was the work of the CIA/Mossad.
Today things got even more ludicrous when Garnaut was stating on the country hour on ABC that we should graze kangaroos instead of cattle. My husband and daughter were both laughing as they were just about to shift some cattle in the truck and they were imagining shifting hopping kangaroos.
The ABC is in bed with Garnaut and the whole global warming government garbage. They are trying to get rid of little farmers like us and sell us out to big coal and gas corporations. They will have to shoot us , we will never sell out.
I saw this this morning - Howard and Harper of Canada made exactly the same speech to kill a million many of them innocent Iraqis - we all have blood on our hands for allowing that to happen - we should be very ASHAMED. http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=16812#post16812