Dear Cino.... I've tried 'stopping' the dog.. but to stop it..you have to kind of grab it..and then it gets more aggressive and tries to bite your restraining hands.

Interesting though.. I've reflected on your words that I could have asked the owner before kicking the dog to restrain it? yep..I could have, but I rather did that by my body language of just 'taking it' for so long now. This has not been a one day thing. Surely.. if a person can see their dog actually hanging off your arm.... they must realize it has to be holding on pretty jolly hard....right?

The fact that when I did complain to her she blamed me... is pretty indicative that she would have blamed me anyway. Even if I'd not kicked the mut. She has one of those 'harsh' faces which make you think she has lived a life of 'conflict' or perhaps by now lives 'for' conflict. She saw me in the distance.. made no attempt to leash it. I'm still thinking I'm the good guy here :)

Dear Veronika... "On the other hand, maybe you're this lovely guy. Who knows?"

Indeeed... people who've met me in person might be the best commentators on that eh?

I'm more interested in people sussing out for themselves the 'real' Jesus than having them "like" me here on my online persona.
This is not a popularity contest. If people disagree with verses I bring which show that Jesus did not include some people.. that he berated.. criticized.. rejected.. then they should do the study themselves of the 'complete' Jesus.. the one they will meet in the whole scripture.

Accusing me of 'picking verses which agree with me' is the same as others picking verses (or thoughts) which disagree....right?
So...personal investigation is the answer.

"I'm still thinking I'm the good guy here :)"

Really? You think you're right and everyone else is wrong? Astonishing.

Certainly your two posts of justification demonstrate how deeply you believe the lies you tell yourself. All those words, yet all you're actually saying is that you'd rather kick a mouthy dog then negotiate with its owner to resolve the situation. This is not a belief system, but just your way of interacting with the world. It's consistent with the way you come across.

"personal investigation is the answer."

Then why not do some? You come across as someone who hasn't been honest for a very, very long time. You say you're not here to win a popularity contest, yet everything you post involves some flattery of yourself, some narcissistic self-congratulation. You say you want people to know Jesus, yet everything you write seems designed to achieve the very opposite — in fact, you want to control Jesus, you want to interpret him for others. You don't *believe* in him, you create him. You look for him in the mirror. You don't like it when other Christians like Foxy or Steel Mann talk about their relationship with Christ — you tell them they are wrong, that they don't really know him, they think he is woosy, left-wing, Tim-Costello-esqe, whereas you know he is fearsome, judgemental, bigotted. Christ, you believe, is like you, you, you.

Oh, is that the time? Sorry, session's up, for today. See you next week!

Polly kicked a doggie in the park? Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. To be fair, if the dog was growling and actually broke the skin, then he might have a case, some dogs are like that, but not Labradors. I have seen working dogs do that, blue cattle dogs etc. but they don't bounce around, they just go you.

It sounds like Boazy doesn't know how to deal with dogs and probably never owned one, indicated by his kicking it..
Try this next time: fold your arms with your hands in your armpits and turn your back on it. Keep turning your back on it if it moves around in front of you, it'll get the mesage soon enough.

And it works on evangelizers too!

Let's see now. Porkycarp

- kicks dogs
- beats his daughter
- incessantly spreads fear and loathing of gays, Muslims or anybody else who doesn't share his peculiar and paranoid world view

I reckon the Labrador's a better Christian than Porky is.

Mind you,

<< Later.. I warned the owner "If it comes on me again, I'll hurt it". >>

I thought he said it was mouthing him, rather than humping his leg. If it was the latter and the Lab did what he said, that might warrant a slight shake of the leg.

I don't think he really meant that though, but I wonder what the poor dog's owner thought...

Sit down David please.
Ready?
On the evidence I agree with you!
Let it be known I love dogs, they like me.
I rarely hurt a dog, even the next door neighbors idiot toilet brush on legs.
It invades my yard and my house, yes in the doggy door.
It barks at me and tries to bite me here in my home.
My two mini Foxys would never enter another home.
The problem however both mine and yours is not the dogs, its the fool that owns them and will not attempt to train them.
Your thread put the blame in its title not the dog.
Dogs do mouth but only you would know how hard it bit.
I often feel like kicking said toilet brush but will never do it, and like you the owner is a rude uncaring woman so violence is not an option.

Polycarp,
you are right and so is Belly. Some owners simply have no idea of animal control. They let the animal do as it pleases. Yet they are supposed to be the master. A neighbors labrador used to greet people by smelling their groin. OK dogs identify by smell, but as he hit hard it hurt. A sharp whack on top of his head with a short, stout piece of timber each time he tried it on me soon changed his mind. You have to ensure you are boss.

Pity you can't whack the owner, but try it on the dog, you have a right to defend yourself and tell the owner you will complain to Council. They should act if the dogs are required to be leashed.

Oh, I found out why people walk or exercise early in the morning. They do it before their brain wakes up and realizes what is happening.