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The Great Firewall of Australia

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This is definitely a system that is unwanted by Australians and useless anyway. This boneheaded idea is why we need to stop rewarding our major parties by voting for them.

What gets me is the very people who lobbied government for it, and used hundreds of millions of $$$ of taxpayers money in the process, dropped it and then started it all over again. I would beat the hell out of them for being so conceited.

Before the 2007 software was made free in this way, these "concerned people" refused to pay a nominal $40 or so to protect their children. This was before government was asked to pay for it for them. So their child's safety was less important than $40 or so. And now that most of them have dropped even the free software, they are wasting taxpayers money (through the religious sympathies and socialism of K.Rudd) AGAIN on something they are too lazy to do anything abou themselves and most Australians will be paying for it, as will industry and business and countless other groups.

This is so antithetical to free society that I wonder if many Australians have slowly but surely slid toward socialism, or have become so pernicious of mind that their lives revolve around fear and have become fascist and reactionary.
Posted by Steel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 7:06:11 PM
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Remember that if you opt out you are put on a list, easily searched by a bureaucrat or law enforcer assigned to spy on Australian citizenry. You are put on a searchable list. This should have been opt in, but we all know that it would be a disaster because so few would do it. So the government is rigging it so that it will be deemed a success because everyone who doesn't know about this will be automatically counted in the statistics.

Also, by making it opt out, you will not be able to go anywhere reliably and be able to get an unfiltered stream. You will be served the government filtered stream just like in China.
Posted by Steel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 7:12:27 PM
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wearymum said:

"So much cost caused by ineptitude and inefficiency.... but then we only have to look at the John Howard internet legacy, and the 'brain drain' to know his government didn't like technology!

Besides, given Mr. Howard's demonstrated propensity for hidden agendas behind each policy/legislative release, do you really think his 'safe-for-the-children' internet policy was prompted by genuine concern?

Nah, more likely it had everything to do with his over the top security agenda to curtail freedom of speech by spying into every home! Dr. Haneef's rights violation was a demonstrated preview of what could happen to anyone of us...."

you are the only poster who understand the REAL issues here

The word "firewall" is borrowed by IT Freaks from the HVAC Industry but they even got THAT wrong, as a firewall stops EVERYTHING

a Fire Damper is what they were trying to imitate - it allows the "good air" through but stops HOT air [by fusible link]

dinner is on so I will continue later
Posted by Divorce Doctor, Thursday, 31 July 2008 8:37:41 PM
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just to explain how Howard/Costello made us the laughing stock of the world, once again claiming to "help" us or rather the little kiddies, his usual trick borrowed from Hitler, per:

"The state must declare the child to be the most precious
treasure of the people. As long as the government is
perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the
people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty
and almost any deprivation."

So he created yet more legislation to say if you want to take out a .com.au domain you MUST give your ABN

well now, the Internet is meant to be for everybody and everything, eg "my butterfly collection", so really all this was simply a Claytons Identity card he tried to sneak in, around the Privacy Act

so for mine I simply take out .com domains - and they are cheaper anyway
Posted by Divorce Doctor, Friday, 1 August 2008 9:13:53 AM
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Diovorce Doctor said;

So he created yet more legislation to say if you want to take out a .com.au domain you MUST give your ABN

well now, the Internet is meant to be for everybody and everything, eg
"my butterfly collection", so really all this was simply a Claytons
Identity card he tried to sneak in, around the Privacy Act
Unquote

What you wrote is just silly, and as you said you took out .com domains.
There are now many more suffix domains available and wouldn't it be
good if a .com.au could be tied to an ABN then you could have more
confidence in buying on line. You could simply go to the ASIC site
and find out about the company, when it was registered, directors etc.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 1 August 2008 11:51:45 AM
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rstuart, that was a stupid comment that you made.

Because I don't want the government dictating what websites I can and can't visit, you automatically accuse me of having 'deviances'.

Either it was a dumb assumption or maybe you are hoping to do the government's work for them using the old 'if you don't want them to know information about yourself, you must have something to hide' lame argument.

Too much censorship leads to totalitarianism.
Posted by Austin Powerless, Friday, 1 August 2008 1:27:14 PM
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