I appreciated reading the balanced comments of foxy, bronwyn, samsung, pelican, philips, runner and especially the great post by o sung wu. Philips of course adopted the aggressive tactics that steel uses, and in the process made steel look foolish. Good effort philips, you place the kids first. O sung wu also highlighted the juvenile comments by steel, by adopting the opposite tactic of philips. He basically ignored steel, and calmly and intelligently showed why children must be the first consideration.

I laughed at the comments by stg and steel with their Nazi Germany, Sharia, fascist, socialist comments, which suggest these two juveniles have a bit of growing up to do.

O sung wu, thanks for your post and the caring it shows for children.

philips, is that you? posting in another day old account? And you call me juvenile.

Nothing philips said was accurate:

Steel>"all you've done is painted a contrived description and put words into my mouth. There is no way that corresponds with what I said. I notice you never quote the passages you condemn, probably because it would make you look like an idiot."

So,
JW>"Nazi Germany, Sharia, .....comment"

Prove where I mentioned these because it's a lie. I do not regard lying, deceitful thieves with much regard. Substantiate your comment it shows that you are a very cowardly indvidual, whoever you are.

Ah hell.... say whatever you want... I don't much care.

Are you kidding with that comment buddy?

Here's what you need to do. Go back and read all the posts on this thread. You, or anyone else, will find comments from either you or stg, depending on the comment, that refer to Nazi Germany, fascism, socialism and sharia, and by the way a lot more of paranoiac slogans/comments that I didn't even bother to mention.

That's why I described you boys as juvenile. Heck, you can't even admit that you boys mentioned these things, and then call someone a liar, backed up by 2 final sentences of personal insults and personal abuse. And now I'm philips, according to you. Grow up. You stand condemned by your own words.

You are calling people "boys", "juvenile" and "buddy" whom you know nothing about, have never communicated with before, and whom you (just incidentally) -disagree with. Whereas there are rational reasons and good, logical basis for using the terms socialists and fascists (among others), there is little reason for a one day old accounter to leap in and suddenly start calling people names that have nothing to do with the topic. I think you need to take a look in the mirror, JW.

Oh Gawd, here we go again, poor old steel painting himself as the "VICTIM", yet again: That's a classic, recognised behaviour of internet forum trolls and abusers. They just love to "turn the argument around".

This is how it works:

They (people like steel) get aggressive and personal when attempting to debate. Steel calls people things like "fascist" and "child abuser" and "parent abuser" and "you're a disease" and "islamic extremist" and "socialist" and "greedy" and "deceitful".......the list is endless on this topic,

Then.........

Steel makes a post on this page that says that says a poster here is a liar and continues "I do not regard lying, deceitful thieves with much regard" and "you are a very cowardly individual". This of course is mere personal abuse,

Then..............

Someone replies to steel's personal insults and calls steel "buddy" and "boy" and "juvenile",

Then.........

Our poor, sensitive steel complains that he's being called those horrible names, "buddy" "boy" and "juvenile". Imagine that, someone calls him "buddy" and he complains he's being abused.

So to sum up.......

Steel paints himself as the "VICTIM" in his last post.

I tell you what folks, steel's posts are the funniest things I have read in , well....... at least 3 or 4 days. He'd keep a good psychoanalyst busy for years.

Poor, poor steel the "VICTIM". He's such a nice, sweet guy. He's always nice to people here and never uses rhetoric or name calling........and this is the way we repay him: By abusing him with terrible names like "boy" and "buddy".

Poor, poor steel......the "VICTIM".

You've just got to laugh. It's hilarious.