Yes, he's crazy. My wife would be really, really interested to know that I'm an Islamic extremist......especially since I've been an avowed atheist all my life.

(5) On page 4 he declares I am "heavily socialist".......he doesn't know that I have been a member of the Liberal Party almost since it's inception (yes, I am that old). My most admired Australian is the great Bob Menzies. I knew him personally and conducted some campaigns with him. Poor steel probably hasn't even heard of Bob Menzies. You see, poor old fashioned steel is so blinded by his political dogma he'd be very lucky if he gets "anything" right. Steel declares, I have "deceitful intentions driven by greed".......oh dear me, I write that I think posed nude, underage, child photography is not ok, and suddenly I'm an ISLAMIC EXTREMIST WITH DECEITFUL GREEDY INTENTIONS. Steel, you are such an idiot that it defies belief.

(6) On page 4 he says I have a "socialist view of childhood". Oh dear, he just can't keep his political "agenda" and "dogma" at bay. Gee, he sure hates those wicked socialists, not to mention those nasty conservatives he talked about earlier on. His view is totally ruled by his political dogma. He just can't leave it alone.

(7) On page 4 he continues with his political ranting. He writes "it is actually you philips who are attacking and abusing children for your private SOCIALIST or FASCIST agenda". So now I'm not just a mere "child abuser", I'm also a FASCIST or SOCIALIST. Ummmmmmmmm steel, have you ever considered getting psychiatric help? Do you see fairies flying in your local park as well?

(8) On page 6 he starts a new loony accusation: Not only am I a child abuser, I'm now a PARENT ABUSER as well, who would love to "spit" and "jeer" at them........but that's not all folks, according to our resident wacko steel.....I'm now a "disease".

To be continued..........

Gee thanks for the synopsis. Who cares?.

Ye be a tad proud me thinks. Take it on the chin. We all cop it, it's good for the soul.

.........to be continued.

Well, my post limit ran out, but I'm back.

So to sum up: Here's what the delusional steel says, in his posts on this topic, in describing people who don't share "his" opinion.......if you don't share "his" opinion you are a......... wait for it, it's looooooong; hang on, I think this needs to be shouted...................you are
A RELIGIOUS, FEMINIST, SOCIAL ENGINEERING, FASCIST, HEAVILY SOCIALIST, POLITICALLY CONSERVATIVE, CHILD ABUSING, CHRISTIAN, PARENT ABUSING, MUSLIM EXTREMIST WHO'S GREEDY AND DECEITFUL.

His politicised descriptions are just sooooooooooo FUNNY!

Steel is all over the place, utterly confused, knows not of what he spews, has zero credibility on the topic and thoroughly deserves mocking.

He started the topic because he was concerned with "himself". "His" rights, "his" desire to do what "he" wants, and to look at what "he" wants to look at.

This thread is NOT about children for steel....it's about "HIM" "HIM" and "HIM", and "HIS" ideology. He's miffed that "his" rights are threatened.

"Most" people who have successfully raised children and grandchildren thoroughly understand the "INNOCENCE" of childhood, and thoroughly understand the difference between the sexualisation and non-sexualisation of underage children. Unfortunately, steel has yet to reach that level of understanding and maturity. Sad. But expected, there's a certain percentage of people in all societies who are happy to put "their" needs in front of childrens' needs.

A child's innocence deserves to be protected

erm...don't get out much, do we?

phillips, all you've done is painted a contrived description and put words into my mouth. There is no way that corresponds with what I said. I notice you never quote the passages you condemn, probably because it would make you look like an idiot.

1 You should read the sentence again :)

"....who share the ideals of authoritarianism and social engineering of the Australian citizenry"

And you think it's loony to oppose authoritarianism and social engineering? I think that describes you enough that I could simply stop here and ignore any of your other bullet points but I will skim past them anyway.

2 Uhmmm.....criticising feminism is definitely *not* politically correct. Those adjectives, "horrible", "evil" and "nasty" that you use to describe feminists are all your own words and not mine :)

3 Are you really trying to pull off a 1984-style scam? "war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength" I presume, your addition would be something like "happiness is sadness"? As for consent, farmers use their children for slave labour as did the Catholics on WYD. They cannot consent, if you are to be believed. What will you be saying to your fellow farmers? Nothing? The fact is, they can and so did their parents. It's a fact.

4 Both Islamists and Christians share a desire for theocracy and in particular, greater censorship. Your simple mind and short-sight again has let you down.

5 Who said the Liberal Party do not have socialists among them? Many of their policies are socialist.

6 Again, you are putting words into my mouth. If you want to know the answer see the end of this post.

7,8 So what is the problem here? If you were neither a socialist/fascist (as qualified in my first post), you would not be so rabid about "crushing" others who express their opinion. You would in fact be agreeing with me. You're abusing every child who has posed for art and denying them their humanity and choices by treating them like mindless entities incapable of exercising any judgement.

I agree with philip's opinion. I'm a parent, and I wouldn't want my nude 12 year old daughter posing nude in professional photographs. What she does when an adult is her business, but she's now a child. Whether such photography is, or isn't art, is irrelevant. What is relevant, is that the child's image is sexualised, to use philip's description. That's why they are photographed posing nude, and not photographed fully clothed while in normal childhood activities like playing or at school etc.

Like philips, I too had a great laugh at steel's posts. It's good to see someone like philips here who has such a great sense of humour, who writes so well and who has the ability to highlight the absurd when other people write absurd things, like steel has done.

Keep up the good work philips. The majority of Australians, especially parents, child carers, child workers, women and other aware people would be right behind your stand for children. Well done.