this is you comment in the

child abuse is a blight on us all

Spikey “So you'd pick up your own daughters if they got into strife, but turn away from a neighbor in need?

Happily, not all the world is as self-centred and smug as you, old feller”

Absolutely on the first

and to the neighbour, I would yet after my daughters.

Of course, I know my neighbours. As I know my friends

but to the likes of you? All I know is you are judgmental and quick to criticize those you have no direct knowledge of.

Both features being deficient in the qualities which would ever endear me to ever think of doing anything for you or ever asking for anything from you or considering your view worthy of even momentary recall.

Barfenzie “A caring and compassionate community”

Don’t seek compassion from government or government employees at any level. They are paid to do a job. Your existence and possible expectations merely burdens them with responsibilities they would sooner not have.

In my times of need I have found my friends the source of support and the medical profession a source of professional service but I don’t think even doctors consider their patients their friends or their ‘work’ necessarily their ‘purpose’.

To parents, even poor ones, they are the best ones to bring up their own children, Lenins experiments proved it.

“Pedophiles by the way are usually abused children”
yes but we are all individually responsible for our own actions and the pedophile ignores his or her own childhood pain when inflicting similar on their victims.

I would call it lust and self entitlement displacing any sense of empathy, respect or compassion .
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 17 July 2008 10:23:15 PM

this is your comment correct col rouge

from huffnpuff

now col rouge im not lying here but you stated that post that

pedophiles by the way are usally abused children

so you are a qualified doctor to state that or have some qualifications to prove your post

this is a disgrace to victims like me that a person who once worked for the corrections department , says something like what you have ,

so now your friends out their will know that you forget what you say and write ,

aye the thing is col rouge we victims know who the pedophiles are and and how the goverment and the institutions are protecting them

and this is true

even cardinal pell covered up the catholic church from the courts and the pope ,

and the state of new south wales continues to do the same

from a real victim

huffnpuff

hope you read it throughly col roug

Huffnpuff ““Pedophiles by the way are usually abused children”

Someone else said that, I quoted it for reference to the point I was making which was

“we are all individually responsible for our own actions and the pedophile ignores his or her own childhood pain when inflicting similar on their victims.”

So exactly what do you suggest I need to “rephrase” to satisfy your

“you want to refraze your comment in the child abuse post where you say a person who is raped as a child becomes a pedophile you are one sick mother _ucker that needs to get real help for your brain”?

“aye the thing is col rouge we victims know who the pedophiles are and and how the goverment and the institutions are protecting them”

Read my posts and read how I have consistently criticized organizations who fail to clean out the corrupt from among their number.

“even cardinal pell covered up the catholic church from the courts and the pope”

I am not a papist and did not elect the incumbent state government anywhere.

I have a simple belief

We have a right to do what we want but we are all responsible for what we do.

If we kill someone or repeatedly deal in illegal drugs, subject to mitigation (and I can think of no mitigating circumstances which apply to drug dealers), it is reasonable to face the death penalty.

Not sure if pedophiles deserve the death penalty or not but open to hear the arguments for and against.

“from a real victim”

I cannot make right what might have been done to you.

All I can do is support your demand for openness and no cover-up, which I do.

Col Rouge: "When opium was introduced to China from India around 1860, its use became wide spread, and by 1905, one quarter of the male Chinese population became addicted."

And when banks were allowed to self-regulate, with fat profits to be made by doing the wrong thing, we had today's mortgage crisis. No doubt that's just the free-market at play, eh?

The point is that it needs to be regulated to ensure that it is both clean and sufficiently available at a price low enough that the profiteers don't have an incentive to be involved, just like the banking sector. Your original claim was that (I paraphrase) "drug dealers are bad, they should be taken out and shot", yet you refuse to properly consider a means by which drug dealers may be taken out of the equation.

Col Rouge: "use of illicit drugs remains currently in the 2-4% range"

What is your evidence for this extraordinary claim? The most recent figures I've seen show that REGULAR cannabis use is occurring among about 10% of the population, and that's without even considering the opiates and amphetamines and their derivatives. Smoking still runs at about 25% and harmful alcohol consumption is at something like 20%.

Col Rouge: "So how would you fancy this society of ours dealing with a 15 time increase (to around 2 ½ million) in the number of junkies and assorted crack-heads lurching from fix to fix?"

Remember Ford Slimming Pills? Here's an old radio ad for them:
"OLD RADIO ADVERT
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Keeping you looking trim and healthy
Keep you really regular.
Buy Ford Pills. "

My parents had a corner shop in the early 80s and among other things they sold those pills. They were high-strength Benzedrine and were available over the counter. We had regulars who'd come in and buy 10 packs at a time "to keep me regular".

Antiseptic,
Your spin is good. "The chances are that she 'got hold of'..." Drug users do not just 'get hold of' drugs. they buy them from illegal drug dealers that care nothing for their clients. The dealers continually seek out more users so if one dies from overdose or contaminant, who cares. The dealers are scum and penalties need to be very harsh with the death penalty as a sentencing option for those with more than one conviction for dealing.

This debate is not about whether or not some drugs should become legal. It is about sentencing for serious crimes.

Celivia, Your message to huffnpuff was not real clear, but I take it you are saying that rape victims are spared because the penalty for rape is not as severe as for murder. I suggest you are speculating.The same as if I suggested that the death penalty was a deterant for murder, even though it may well be in some cases.

I can only say that not having the death penalty did not save Virginia Morse, Anita Cobby, Lauren Barry, Nicole Collins, Ebony Simpson or Janine Balding. These girls were abuducted, tortured, abused and raped repeatedly then had throats cut or drowned. Such filth as the offenders are should be shot like rabid dogs. Yet we feed and keep them in warmth and comfort.

Banjo, I don't "spin", I try to make intelligent posts and hope that intelligent people will respond intelligently. Sometimes they do. Sadly, this occasion appears to be one of the other times...