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Christianity - Morality or Compassion

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I wonder where people go when they are in need of compasion?

I am a member of a service organisation to Children in war-torn and poverty stricken countries called "Compassion". It is an international organisation that has millions of sponsors that supply essential food, clothing, schooling to deprived and orphan children in these situations. The Wotofa childrens choir is a product of such a ministry. This is an organisations run by the Churches.

The impression that the Churches lack compassion is because those who make this statement have not been involved in Christian ministry
Posted by Philo, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 7:15:58 PM
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Hello Philo,

You know where I stand on matters of religion: My histographical & scientific studies support said beliefs to the degree of a being degraded heuristic only. That is, the positive heuristical non-existence is stronger.

Yet, I have written pro bono educational programmes for Third World countries. My biggest problem was politics, e.g., when Myanmar [Burma] went into ASEAN, Germany, as a member of the EU, cut of fares & accommodation funding to lecturers. Nonetheless, I let the German Chamnbers of Commerce have the work for free, pending the ending of the political sanctions.

Morality and Compassion are indepedent constructs to belief, I posit.

Hope this post finds you well & happy.

Regards,

O.
Posted by Oliver, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 8:25:10 PM
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Thank's Oliver for your greeting.

Morality is the basis of a societies principles for cooperative function of good behaviour. Immorality is the opposite behaviour that breaks down values of good social function.

Compassion is the selfless sacrifice of one for the wellbeing of the deprived, helpless or undeserving. That is the basis of the Christian Gospel. The gospel is the acts of grace that offers forgivness to the unrepentant opponent.
Posted by Philo, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 9:12:10 PM
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Dear friends

if we wish to define something, usually if there is a definative text on the subject available... we would consult it.

In this case it is the Bible.

The 'believers' were first called 'Christians' at Antioch..by the pagans.

They were disciples of Jesus.

They will be characterized by the range of emotions and actions found in Christ.

-Righteous anger.
-Rebuking of evil.
-Compassion for the helpless. (not the deliberately self made variety)
-Humility
-Love.. for both the unbeliever and the believer.

Love NEVER means 'agree'.. it might just as well mean 'disagree'.

Ooops..I think I committed a sin :) I'm sure that will cause someone who disagrees with my statement then to claim I "hate" them...aah..but that's life.

John the Baptist came neither eating or drinking.. and they said "He has a demon"

Jesus came eating and drinking and they said "A glutton and a drunkard"

How much more of my self :)

Gluttonistic demon possessed nutter!

"Christianity" above all else is 'Relationship'... and the Morals come out of that relationship, but they do exist separately.. in the Law of Moses and the ethics of Jesus.
Posted by Polycarp, Tuesday, 15 July 2008 9:59:50 PM
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Is society becoming so obsessed with 'compassion' that it can't make hard
decisions?

'Compassion' nowadays has become a euphemism for - don't hold me
responsible for my decisions, or lack of decisions .

A few examples of this are:
* people don't take-out insurance –a bush fire wipes them out – the community is asked to be compassionate & pay their bills
* people arrive illegally on our shores, after having bribed, lied, burnt their papers, & jumped queues – the community is told to show compassion and take them in.
* People choose to smuggle drugs or fight infidels & are caught-out –the community is told to show compassion and bail them out.

Compassion is not pricelss,someone -often everyone, except the compasionee,pays.

I have always thought the steadfast son in the prodigal son parable got a bad deal. The - compassion - shown the prodigal short-changed the steadfast son
Posted by Horus, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 5:39:53 AM
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Horus,
Justice demands payment, deprivation or sacrifice for misdeeds.
Compassion offers forgivness to the repentant of their misdeeds.
(Repentance = change of mind and behaviour)
While the offender continues to practises social disorder and believes his / her misdeeds are acceptable behaviour there can be no settlement of justice. They must continue to pay the price. The person who changes behavioural practise after the price has been met must be shown compassion (forgivness). Forgivness is not effective to those who continue to violate social order.

However forgivness must be offered for past misdeeds on the basis that the price has been paid.

Morality
Thou shalt not establish behaviours or values contrary to good social order.
Thou shalt show devoted respect for the highest of ideals of God's character.

Thou shalt not take the life of another resultant from foolishness, for envy, anger or revenge,
Thous shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not take without just payment the property of another.
Thou shalt not give false witness against another.
Thou shalt not live with a jealousy attitude of others property.

All these are established practises of an ordered and good functioning society
Posted by Philo, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 10:41:18 AM
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