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Col Rouge: "a closure which he denied many of his victims"

Sheesh! Hysterical much, lovey?
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 5:38:41 PM
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Dear Col Rouge,

Cynical assumptions.? I was merely quoting the observations made in
The Age - Good Weekend magazine. But, Comparing a person whose guilt has yet to be proven - with Ivan Milat?

What does that say about your degree of fairness? Open-mindedness - or 'innocent until proven guilty?' according to our legal system.
No wonder I feel uneasy about this Perth pensioner's chances of getting a fair trial...
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 7:31:19 PM
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cont'd.

I forgot to add... you said that according to Hungary's sense of nationhood, you felt that the last people to hold favour in Budapest would be someone from the "Old Guard." But today - the 'Old Guard,'
doesn't exist. Today - they have become 'patriots.'

And some of the biggest 'patriots' are ex-KGB.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 7:46:22 PM
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Foxy “I was merely quoting the observations made in The Age - Good Weekend magazine.”

If I were to quote a source I would distinguish it from my own words. Either way, that you go to the effort of quoting it implies you agree with it, in which case, my original comment, regarding cynicism, stands.

“What does that say about your degree of fairness? Open-mindedness - or 'innocent until proven guilty?' according to our legal system.”

My degree of fairness which supports the rule of law, properly executed requests for extradition and a trial

Compared to your standard of

"innocent due to old age and looking “genteel”, as reported in a weekend comic."

That standard of “fairness” would equally excuse Dr Josef Mengele, if he were caught today.

Hardly a fair outcome for his victims either.

“And some of the biggest 'patriots' are ex-KGB.”

And I suppose they all run Hungary as part of a huge conspiracy…..

Antiseptic “Sheesh! Hysterical much, lovey?”

You are failing to make a point, probably just breaking wind.
Posted by Col Rouge, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 9:44:36 AM
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Dear Col Rouge,

I've taken everything you've said on board.

I fully understand the points you've raised.

However, my views differ from yours.

Even if it were possible to conduct a fair hearing three generations after the alleged war crimes were committed, when most of the eyewitnesses have died,I don't believe that justice can be achieved through a selective process which violates the most fundamental due process rights of the accused.

But that is only my opinion. I don't expect you to agree with me.
I respect your right to your opinion. I only ask that you do me the same courtesy.

Cheers.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 11:28:50 AM
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Col Rouge:"You are failing to make a point, probably just breaking wind."

A man stands accused of having been complicit in the murder of someone 64 years ago during a war, living an apparntly blameless life since and before and you try to compare him with Ivan Milat.

That, of course, was after you accused me of anti-semitism for daring to suggest he'd not even be in the predicament if the victim wasn't Jewish, followed by the revelation that the prosecution is being pushed by the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.

Dimwitted hysteria doesn't make for a good discussion, even by your normal low standards.

Fortunately, most here seem to apply rather better quality control to their output.
Posted by Antiseptic, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 1:13:42 PM
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