Of course the entire problem would simply go away, if we stopped teaching those pesky women to read and write. And don't get me started on those 'pussy-whipped' males who support them...

Keep 'em ignorant, I say.

Dear all...

I hope you read that link provided by Steven from the New York times about the woman translating the Quran.

If you wonder why I bring these issues to public notice, it is exemplified by that women.. 'she had never dwelled on the verse' and then..when finally confronted by its stark brutality, she went into shock almost.. "It can't be"

I note also, that she says "The prophet never beat his wives, so how can this be true".. but the secondary source of Islamic jurisprudence, the Hadith includes one which specifically states Mohammad thumped Ayesha....and she says "It hurt"

I could give chapter and verse if anyone is interested.. after all..I'm just a 'biased religious nutter' :)

But the portion in the link about the German judge says it all:

[In Germany last week, a judge citing the verse caused a public outcry after she rejected the request for a fast track divorce by a Moroccan-German woman because her husband beat her. The judge, removed from the case, had written that the Koran sanctioned physical abuse.]

Does this not represent an inversion of values as political correctness and multiculturalism gain momentum?

When western Judges make decisions based on Islamic law, we have a serious problem and a capitulation of values, culture and law.

You don't have to be a religious nutbag or a rampaging fundamentalist to know this, you just have to have the ability to read.

I hope I never hear another peep out of Pericles about 'adding to the problem'.. for goodness sake.. I rather think the NY times has significantly more impact than humble moi.

stevenlmeyer
"We need to abolish feminism and secularism.Because both are causes of Islamophobia"
What do you say stevenlmeyer? Are you joking? Islamophobia is caused by Cristian extremists, Cristian taliban, neoconservatives and right extremists.
Your joke is very good and pelican's joke even better!
Secularists and feminism promote the cooperation and understanding between people from different religious.
I understand that Muslim extremist leaders need the Cristian extremists to scare Muslims and keep their privileges as Cristian extremists need the Muslim extremists.
In the same way neoconservatives, right extremists need the Muslim extremists as the Muslim extremists need the neoconservatives and right extremists.
feminism and secularism is the most progressive, the most advance part of our civilization for a better future for all people on our planet.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

CJ,

I had never gone down the path this thread and your post opened up. But, as happens so often, you gave me pause for thought in an intriguing way. I mean yes, of course, one lives ones life hoping that the track one has taken will lead to outcomes that are beneficial and not obstructive. But to have some sort of public recognition of privately held convictions is heartening: however brief, disputed or tiny in The Great Scheme of Things that recognition is. It encourages one to believe that the leap from the theoretical to the empirical is not impossible.

I am immoderately cheered by this world-view but now I have to go away and think it all through in greater depth.

Well, it's true. Feminists tend to be a little sceptical of communities which insist that women must wear masks and deserve brutal execution for being sluttish enough to go and get gang-raped. And secularism isn't too tolerant of Koranic law as a replacement for legislature.

Up with balloons!

Down with gravity!

Racism is perhaps the worst evil known to the human race.
Feminism and Atheism is the opposite these are actually the most progressive. CJMorgan seems to be the most cluey participant in most of these posts and what ever he says always comes accross with what is right and just. Keep up the good work CJ perhaps you may influence or educate Boazy in the end.