It's official. We need to abolish feminism and secularism.

Why?

Because both are causes of Islamophobia.

You think I am joking?

Quote from "Muslims in the EU" by the Open Societies Institute EU Monitoring and Advocacy Program.*

"…As Schiffauer states (2004: 355), in contrast to most minorities in the country [Germany], the Muslim minority is confronted with a remarkable countersolidarity of the whole society. Unlike most issues relting [sic] to immigration, they even lack the support of the coalition partners of the left, who often have even stronger resentments against Muslims, BEING NOURISHED BY A MIXTURE OF FEMINISM AND SECULARISM

(Emphasis added)

OK, the language is a bit convoluted as you would expect in a German report; but the meaning is clear. Feminism and secularism is depriving Muslims of much needed allies.

Ziauddin Sardar, New Statesman columnist, broadcaster and Visiting Professor at the School of Arts of City University of London quoted approvingly from the report in his New Statesman column of 22 May 2008.

Quote:

"…the report finds centre-left parties also using these racist sentiments to strategise. They may be liberal about immigration but, when it comes to Muslims, they fall prey to an Islamophobia that is "nourished by a mixture of feminism and secularism".**

There is only one solution. We must immediately abandon feminism and secularism. Online Opinion can do its bit by declining to accept any articles that defend secularism and advocate feminism.

*See: http://www.eumap.org/topics/minority/reports/eumuslims/background_reports/download/germany/germany.pdf

**See: http://www.newstatesman.com/religion/2008/05/european-muslims-integration

Yes Steven by all means go for it.

Afterall feminists are just woman who hate and plot for the downfall of men, who make up stories about domestic violence and whose final aim is to rid of men altogether in favour of test tubes.

Secularists are just people who hate all religious people, atheists and agnostics.

Yes ban them all - that is the answer.

:)

Gosh Pelican, I hadn't realised you were so perceptive.

Very droll Steven.

However, I don't think that feminism and secularism are roots of Islamophobia - rather they are the sources from which Islam will become increasingly moderate in Western societies if given half a chance. Islamophobia derives from an unfortunate admixture of religious and xenophobic/racist ideologies that feeds, and in extreme cases actively fosters, hatred against Muslims.

I'm sure that there are many Islamophobes out there who are quite secular and/or feminist in their worldviews, but also harbour xenophobic or racist sentiments about those who are different from them culturally, ethnically or phenotypically. They are not mutually exclusive categories.

Of course, ultimately Islamists do have more to fear from feminist and secular ideologies than they do from other religions. Fundamentalism is simply a rearguard action by religions as they sink ultimately into their proper role as historical curiosities, like Greek, Roman and Norse myths, sagas and legends.

Up with feminism and secularism!

Up stevenlmeyer too!

:)

AAh CJ.. droll?

"amusing in a wry or odd way"

I didn't find anything "amusing" in any way, about Steven's post.

If was factually informative, and golly gosh.. God forbid we discuss things based on..FACTs eh :)

The initiatives Steven mentioned are but some of a multi pronged attack on the west by Salafists and Wahabists, (the flat bits of the bell curve)
while the dome of the Bell.... are those who just go with the flow.

Now..it is patently absurd and ludicrious not to fight against wahabist and salafist Islamism, out of fear that the dwellers in the 'dome' region might be hurt, offended, alienated or annoyed.

The process of uncovering the dark side of this 'force' should, if people are not intimidated by those at the extremes, result in the wholesale abandonment of Islam by the moderates.

So.. your efforts to 'brand' such exposures as 'Islamophobia' simply place you in the category of the 'gullible and easily used' by those dark forces.

They have even convinced you that ur on 'high moral ground' :).. such is your disconnection from the real world.

Here is Salafist/Wahabist intimidation of 'moderates'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZNx0xHe0p0

So.. it just stuns and amazes me that CJ would describe the legitimate attacks on such people as 'Islamophobia'.. I dare say he cannot find a single example of any atheist/or Christian 'mob' ranting quite like this bloke, or.. even demonstrating against Islam.

Here is how "Catholics" responded to the bullying Muslim demands that they condemn the Pope. One (Choudery) calls for capital punishment for those who insult Mohammad. (which of course, is like a red rag to an angry bull to anyone with any sense of Western Identity!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya9xypqB5eo

Notice how 'violent' were these 'nutter Christians' :) see all their fists flying, the kicks.. the spitting... ?

For once CJ MORGAN we agree.

There are signs that what you forecast is already happening:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/us/25koran.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7265021.stm

No wonder Muslim religious leaders and their apologists so fear secularism and feminism