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Bill Heson: artist or pornographer?

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All this indignation and outrage while thousands of other children are being exploited (sexually and non-sexually) all over the world.

I suspect that real paedophiles wouldn't be visiting art galleries for their satisfaction.

If you're worried about being somehow personally titillated by such things or suspect that somebody else seeing them will be and then suddenly become a paedophile, then things are probably far worse than you think.

How many posters have actually seen these photos?
Posted by rache, Monday, 26 May 2008 2:37:17 PM
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You two can answer this. How is this teenager harmed by these photographs? It was consenteed and agreed by all parties. Try to keep it concise.

As for my grouping the religious people, Mr Right.,

Mr Right>"Do you have a name for non-religious people who disagree with you?"

Ignorant?

Mr Right>"Branding people is a favourite passtime of people who don't like to hear opposing opinions."

Religious people brand themselves.
Posted by Steel, Monday, 26 May 2008 2:47:31 PM
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Thankyou Steel,

I now know that anyone who disagrees with Steel is either a religious zealot or ignorant.

As a person who cannot answer a question without being rude and derisive, nothing you say can be taken seriously or treated with any respect.
Posted by Mr. Right, Monday, 26 May 2008 3:00:36 PM
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To begin i havnt been to any church more than once
what i say has nothing to do with 'religion'
but simply morality

i would like to comment on this post
[my reply will be in brakets -following each qustion/statement]

All this indignation and outrage while thousands of other children are being exploited (sexually and non-sexually) all over the world.....
...[we cant do anything about that , we can however work here and now][but please note what your saying ''INDIGNATION and OUTRAGE'']
[bought on by our seeming helplessness as the perverts get ever more bold and obvious]

''..I suspect that real paedophiles wouldn't be visiting art galleries for their satisfaction.''....

....[SUSPECT,?
you cant even honestly state it as a certainty ,
..yet dare to defend it?..[even one pedophile getting 'satisfaction [or comfort from it is TOO much]

.are you even knowing your showing aid and comfort masked as concern ''for THEIR statsfaction''.

.THEY deserve no satisfaction , deserve no peace of mind , deserve nothing but being locked away as the real and PRESENT danger they really are]..

''...If you're worried about being somehow personally titillated by such things or suspect that somebody else seeing them will be and then suddenly become a paedophile, then things are probably far worse than you think''.....

[no dear much worse than you dare acknowledge]

...How many posters have actually seen these photos?..

[they have been forced on me via 5 news reports on tv , plus even made the way into my news papers]..[i can only hope police are doing their duty to check out those visuiting the links some posters are intent on putting up [to defend thier support of perversions giving aoid and comfort to child molestors ;

noting pedophile means simply 'child lover ' boy thats a terrible name to call perverts isnt it ].

[my response to rache ends ; as posted by ]
Posted by rache, Monday, 26 May 2008 2:37:17 PM
Posted by one under god, Monday, 26 May 2008 3:08:42 PM
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one under God welcome to the forum under one of my posts say this one, click on the little human left hand side
Is it female or male? you will find I am male not bigoted just male.
Look down any street on any weekend and you will see ten year olds dressed like well just look.
Have you seen these photos?
Done any book burning of late?
Even a Christian must know the human body is not evil?
A book full of story's about humanity is to be found in these photos the trials of becoming a teenager much much more are there .
Funny no not really but sex did not enter my mind on seeing them.
Anyone else find it strange religion often brands the human body evil?
Tell me just what you saw in these photos please that made up your mind about them?
Posted by Belly, Monday, 26 May 2008 5:40:28 PM
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Rache said:

"If you're worried about being somehow personally titillated by such things or suspect that somebody else seeing them will be and then suddenly become a paedophile, then things are probably far worse than you think."

Too right. So much of this is people saying 'I'm not a pervert but other people are', then claiming to understand the inner workings of the paedophile mind. Personally, I can't begin to imagine how a paedophile thinks or what they might find titillating. I have a great deal of trouble trying to imagine what's so sexy about a lot of things other people find sexually suggestive, including real pornography.

So I ask how it is that I see a photo of your average kid and others see pornography or paedophile bait? I find it alarming that some otherwise ordinary people seem to have spent a lot of time imagining how paedophiles might see the world. That, to me, is far more disturbing than nudity at any age. Why would any normal person want to become so familiar with the way paedophiles think that they can know what a paedophile would find arousing?

Police, psychologists and other specialists have to understand those kinds of minds and they're worth more money for the horror of it all, but why anyone else would want to enter the paedophile mind is beyond me. In my mind kids are kids, whether they're dressed or not. I find it difficult to understand why anyone would want to see them any other way.
Posted by chainsmoker, Monday, 26 May 2008 6:28:10 PM
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