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Unions and the ALP what next?

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Lets see housing state responsibility stopped building enough housing and started selling them off.
In newcastle part of the housing commision flats are to be demolished within 5 years.

Where are they going to live.

The government has been creating the increase in house prices.

Also the kevin 07 tshirts.

Why did they buy from overseas.

Also the stop the sell off tshirts.

why did they buy from overseas.

If labor and the unions do not buy australian then what do we have , hypocrites.

Stuart Ulrich
Independent
Posted by tapp, Saturday, 10 May 2008 10:00:53 PM
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The only gropup of really good blokes we dealt with over a long period of time were the meat union blokes fighting to survive.

On The Front Page of the Gold Coast Bulletin this weekend
There is a story about the Music Union destroying Anzac spirit between us and Kiwis.
A country and Western Singer was apparently told he couldnt perform this year in the RSL Club as he and his band had for thirty five years.
I just cant think of his name at present and at almost 3am I am not about to start looking for the paper as this is no small building.

I do recall reading the peformer and his band were stunned by the unfriendly aggesive act by the music union.

He was told because he didnt have a Australia rep in his band he was no longer welcome to play at Southport RSL Club.

Well we need not worry to look out for our old Anzacs next time.

Its reported to have caused quite an upset In New Zealand and rightfully so.

Does anybody have any doubt what unions will do further to this country if let go.
Note not a word from Kevin 07. These empty headed loud mouth bullys need to be stopped in their tracks once and for all.

If the Kiwis were good enough to fight along side us why are they not good enough to play in our RSL club once a year as they have for the past thirty five.

What a mean spiritued act. I think we best contact this bloke and his band in NZ and invite them over to host a festival to protest unions.

Country and Western is very popular so hopefully the uni kids will 'rock' up and learn first hand about unions.


I mean seriously has anybody ever seen such a mean spirted ding bat mentality. Its so typical.

If I had time I would go to NZ and say thanks digger to this bloke. He came for 35 years to play her once a years out of respect
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 11 May 2008 3:10:38 AM
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http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2008/05/10/10929_gold-coast-top-story.html

May 11, 2008 10:34am

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Banned on the run - Kiwis canned

Kathleen Donaghey

10May08

ROCK musician Kevin Borich has been living in Australia for 35 years but he's apparently not Aussie enough to perform on the Gold Coast.

The '70s rocker best known for the classic hit Gonna See My Baby Tonight, was booked to play last night and tonight at the Southport RSL with three other Kiwi acts.

However, interference from the Musicians Union of Australia -- which demanded an Australian act be part of the show -- forced the last-minute cancellation of the Kiwi extravaganza.

The union had refused to endorse a work visa for one of the drawcard performers, NZ rock icon Larry Morris, unless an Australian support act was added to the bill.

Mr Borich, a NZ passport holder who regularly performs at Gold Coast clubs and took part in the tsunami charity concert at Royal Pines Resort in 2005, was not considered Australian enough, even though he lives in Maleny on the Sunshine Coast hinterland and pays taxes here.

"It's absolutely disgusting and I'm livid to the hilt," said Mr Borich, from his home last night.

"I've been doing shows in Australia for 35 years and I've never once been told I need a support band.

"We're just shattered.

"Thanks to the Australian Musicians Union the Anzac spirit is a myth."

The weekend show, dubbed 'A Night of Magic Kiwis', was to be a reunion of old mates Kevin Borich, Larry Morris, rock revivalist Tom Sharplin and reggae band The Herbs who have known each other for decades from their early days in NZ.

It had been advertised for two months, with crowds of up to 400 expected on both nights.

Southport RSL operations manager Damon Gerebtzoff said the sudden cancellation on Wednesday sparked numerous angry calls from locals who had been looking forward to the night of '70s nostalgia.

Please click on link above to read full story
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 11 May 2008 10:41:30 AM
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Yes it is hard to talk about politics in this forum, it remains a great forum but it is truly hard.
In a thread about a relation ship so very old we get advice from TAPP?
or talk about things that have no impact at all on the thread.
Make no mistake Rudd is here to stay, his intent to rule for all Australians is clear.
The ALP will do much more for the union movement than the last mob, but the relation ship is a subject that will not go away.
My constant reminders there is indeed a difference in unions is true, but.
That difference is not understood by many, every bad action blackens the whole.
Unions in a world that has Labor governments wall to wall[at least till the NSW state election] must look for other paths sometimes.
Again and again unions give ground for the good of the ALP.
That ground is not our property it belongs to our members.
Recruiting members should be the easiest task in the world, they should recruit themselves.
But we under estimate others ideas and over estimate our understanding of issues at our peril.
Are we forever bound to a party that takes us for granted?
Just have to tap the depths of miss understanding Greg TAPP the bloke who flogged you in that seat is very left, has no part to play in the betrayal of the party in NSW.
He however would be silly to get involved openly just yet a very real chance of a party implosion still exists, maybe is the only answer.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 12 May 2008 5:38:21 AM
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Belly

let me say this

Greg has not spoken out he is there to represent the people has he, has he voiced his concern NO.

Rudd backs the sale, so this would mean his lackies back the sale.

When I see greg fighting for the worker and the people and not the alp then we shall see.

So Belly as you all now turn your backs again on the workers for the alp it seems to be time for the workers to save money from those who no longer represent them

but prefer to take their money

call it membership

and work for the alp.

As you may have not niticed i keep fighting for the people and worker and you lot keep fighting for the alp.

maybee one day instead of unions and the alp it will be

unions and the workers

And regards to the advice well even your own party doesnt listen and rudd has told you all to wake up, well it seems that the power wokers should have taken the money and not wasted their money on people who do not make a stand for them.

When the unions work it out that they work for the workers even though this will not happen and the ALP at election time.

Well it is their choice

Stuart Ulrich
Independent
Posted by tapp, Monday, 12 May 2008 9:50:37 AM
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As I leave the thread I need to put a few things on record the member for Charlton is on record as a fighter for workers rights.
Who could doubt that?
I am from another faction of the union movement/Labor party than he is yet I know how he thinks on this issue from another thread power sell off.
In fact many fights have been fought within the twin movements in the past ,more often than not the unions give in for the good of the movement.
While often it is the best result I have doubts it always will be , cracks are appearing that can not be hidden by white wash.
Some left wing unions are flirting with the Greens.
Other are considering a senate team.
I personally have few doubts the best answer is active union members sitting in ALP Branch's so they are heard[ not if in NSW even the brachs are not heard here] and not to rule the ALP but to keep a conscience of what the party is.
I again say this federal government is a great one but if it followed my state branch one day?
The future direction of both movements is not fixed in stone but the debate is so at least I tried.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 6:11:15 AM
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