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The body in the casket: World Youth day and Pier Frassati

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Boazy: << Next we will hear "Oh..I touched his casket and I was suddenly healed"

Yikes. >>

Imagine that! Somebody claiming miraculous healing by God. How extraordinary! Of course, rational people like Boazy and Gibo would never make any such claims, would they?

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Posted by CJ Morgan, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 12:23:17 PM
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Maybe they gave him a good scrub down with carbolic soap before they shipped him here?
Posted by Ginx, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 1:30:46 PM
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Hi CJ...

I'm using my own discernment here, so I cannot say "thus- it is"

The closest to the idea of healing through touching something connected to a 'saint' is that of Paul in Acts 19.

The passage is not 'teaching' this as a doctrine, but 'reporting' what apparently happened. The report might even be seriously embellished by the 'masses'....this kind of thing does happen.

-Paul healing in the name of Jesus. GUARANTEED ok.
-People 'healed' through touching some artifact or 'thing' which had come in contact with Paul..? more like 'popular magic' than true healing.

Please read this from Acts 19

8 Paul entered the synagogue and spoke boldly there for three months, arguing persuasively about the kingdom of God. 9But some of them became obstinate; they refused to believe and publicly maligned the Way. So Paul left them. He took the disciples with him and had discussions daily in the lecture hall of Tyrannus. 10This went on for two years, so that all the Jews and Greeks who lived in the province of Asia heard the word of the Lord.

11 God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.

13 Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, "In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out." 14Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. 15(One day) the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?" 16Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding

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That last paragraph shows the diff between 'magic' and 'true healing'.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 6:06:52 PM
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So, Boazy, when Gibo talks about 'healing' is he talking about Paul, or about popular magic? Or is he just insane? Seeing as he has been attacked by demons and all. I don't know if he ran about naked an bleeding though. That would be frowned upon in the police force one would think.

I only ask because he sounds like the Benny Hinn type of Christian and we all know how you feel about him.
Posted by Bugsy, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 7:09:55 PM
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Havent been attacked by a demon for years Bugsy.
Not since the early years of my christianity. They gave up... I was too strong. I feared God more than the pansy attacks from fallen spirits.
Its not uncommon though and not just to christians.
Click on Ghost attacked me, says spooked Alba.
People that are non-beleivers cop it from time to time.
Part of satans plan is to put his existance into myth...but not always is he successful. He's more than just a funny guy in a red suit with a pitchfork. He has an evil heart full of hate about his being kicked out of Heaven (see Lucifer).
Posted by Gibo, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 10:19:52 PM
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Dear Bugsy....

While I might not express myself in the same way bro Gibo does.. there is a reality behind all that he says. The dimensions of which.. are known to God, not me.

I've seen it, and also seen indigenous pastors deal with it in the name of Jesus.. with a confident sensitivity much sharper than my own.

The events recounted in Acts, are real, and with your excellent intellectual credentials, I do believe you can see it, even though for the sake of 'image' :) you deliver stinging rebuttals here.

Hmm..I'm guessing you are at about.. the Litani River on the road to Damascus :) Watch out for bright lights and penetrating voices.
May the Lord bless and guide you.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 24 April 2008 7:10:48 AM
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