So rehctub is really chasing a government subsidy to cover the difference between what he wants to pay 'unskilled' workers and the minimum wage. I'm always amused when so-called business people seek to suck off the public teat in order, ultimately to increase their profits.

So here we go again hey. Just can't refrain from personal attacks, can we!

I don't employ low paid workers, 'GET IT!

Our rencent boom is driven by the mines.

They adopt and both parties enjoy AWA's. So why change this?

Can't you people see that many people today have jobs because the mines have taken many of the workers away from main stream employment.

Have you had a tradesman at your place recently whom you consider 'not real bright'. This is becasue the mines have taken so many away and the ones who couldn't get work before now have it coming on strong and fast.

Upset the mining industry and all of a sudden the missing tradesman come back to main stream and the 'less favourable' loose their jobs.

Go back 10 years, see how many sparkies, chippies, plumbers and alike were out of work.

Anyway, I have hit a nerve so as to say and feel it is better we sit back and watch what happens in the next years.

Don't worry, I am not a bad person and will be the first to admit if I am wrong.

A lot to answer rehctub understand please no dream just fact if returned the Howard government had NO PLANS to continue paying careers and pensioners bonuses, zero intent to do so.
Labor was wrong in holding of its plan to include the bonus as a yearly increase not add on, lies and better managed campaign let the conservatives by pass their intent while blaming Labor for a crime it never committed.
Ginx? get well be nice if you can.
Government subsidized wages? why ?
The task workers do is needed or they would not have a job, right now like it or not almost any one can get a job so just maybe workers are in demand?
No disrespect rehctub if I caped your prices would it concern you?

Rehctub,
Just wanted you to know I have no problem with your post. If it came across like criticism, well, it wasn't meant that way. I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that especially the pretend intellectual elitist club of Australia is forever pushing the agenda that academic education & only academic education is the key to it all. It ain't. There are many, many not-so-academically educated who more than pull their weight in the functioning of our economy. Can only say that of a few accies. The problem with the wages structure is that it is designed to fleece the guy who is physically working his guts out & hopefully is so worn out that he'll keel over 18 months into the pathetic pension so that all his contributions can then be directed to the non-deserving. I & my co-workers have to constantly rectify & make things actually work which were designed by highly educated & highly paid engineers & approved by some highly paid moron bureaucrat. Of course there are competent academics & bureaucrats, there's at least 1 in every 500.

Likewise Belly. OCD is difficult to cope with I hear. Once you can curb your obsessive need for petty shots, you can get back to the topic.

Get some medication you petty little man.

individual has highlighted a problem we should all consider.
The written word can sometimes say things we never intended it to, for those like me who had no basic education in such it often does.
I do not always need to verbally destroy my debating opponent.
Have nothing but respect for rehctub but differ on many points.
I am a product of my life's experiences, think as life tough me.
Now Ginx, you have ran free in every thread without censorship I ask for the same freedom in this our last conversation.
You have insulted some one in every thread I have ever found you in now it is my turn.
I have no mental health issues sometimes we must look to ourselves before we point at others, honestly wish you well in your battle but beg you to consider your constant uncontrolled anger, bad manners and need to insult good by from me Ginx.
The thread opens up interesting points questions rehctub asked, should governments[us really] give trade offs for increase,s in the minimum wage?
And that reminder from individual of highly paid engineers who are in some cases the most wrongly skilled or under skilled people in the workforce.
Do we pay on skills?

rehctub: "So here we go again hey. Just can't refrain from personal attacks, can we!

I don't employ low paid workers, 'GET IT!"

It wasn't a personal attack, rehctub - I just think it's a bit rich for you to be wanting the government to subsidise your unskilled employees' wages. You say you don't pay minimum wages, then say you "feel the government should share the burden with regards to wages".

Like I said, if I couldn't pay decent wages to my employees (without needing a government subsidy) I'd have to look seriously at whether I should remain in business.