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Should Holocaust studies be compulsory at school?

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At the very minimum, the Diary of Anne Frank should be read by everyone.
Posted by StG, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 1:13:16 PM
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StG,

My son's ex-wife was a university-educated German woman. She believed the Diary of Anne Frank was propoganda.

Yes, the Holocaust must be taught as an important component of WW2 history ... also, what Hitler did to his own people. Unfortunately, this isn't much addressed. The fact that he was so obsessed with destroying the Jews, that rather than use rolling stock to send winter clothing to his soldiers in a Russian winter, he used stock to send Jews to the gas chambers. German soldiers with metal studs in their boots, died in agony where they stood.

As late as 1944 German youths - not yet of arms-bearing age - were being publicly hung in city squares. Of both sexes, these young people, were executed as criminals, a danger and "threat to the moral health nation's youth". Their crime? Listening to jazz (black) music. Two such groups were the Navajos of Cologne, and the Edelweiss Pirates of Cologne-Ehrenfeld.

Apart from the horrors of murdering those considered mental "defectives" and homosexuals, Hitler targetted other German groups. Unfortunately, it appears that not many Germans themselves know this. Then we have the evidence of Hitler being responsible for managing to raise Germany to a pile of rubble in a few short years.

Yet, some people still attempt to defend Hitler; and some of these are German themselves.
They don't really know their own history.
Posted by Danielle, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 3:26:27 PM
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Danielle,

Anything used to stir emotion is propaganda. The issue is whether it's fact. Life Is Beautiful is a good movie to see about the Holocaust.
Posted by StG, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 3:44:56 PM
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Easy Times,

"Prince Harry wearing an Africa Corps shirt to a party"

The outrage from the British people, especially from services, was much greater than every heard from Jews. In fact, I can't really recall any Jew raising an opinion.

Those who were imprisoned by the Japanese, (or widows or orphans of those who were) tend also to be sensitive about what happened. What do you say to them. Sh@t happens?
Forget it! Some still experience post-traumatic stress syndrome.

The fact that you have a foot in "both camps" - really is of no significance - unless, of course, your Lutheran side support Hitler and his plans for extermination of the Jews. Then, I suggest, you have a major problem.
Posted by Danielle, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 3:47:05 PM
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Hi TRTL and CJ :)

well.. yes, my 'list' was very selective and quite biased.. *I CONFESS*

Perhaps you might appreciate 'why' by considering:

1/ Islam is out for our hearts, minds wills and taxes (Jizya) and to subjugate us TODAY and NOW.

2/ Tours and Vienna are viewed by most historians (from what I gather) as 'pivotal' for Western culture and life.

3/ Muslims are trying to re-construct our culture 'in terms of' Islamic values. There is no point arguing this, its a plain fact.
Since I read of the attempt to re-structure our whole higher education timetables to suite Muslim Prayer times. I freaked! If you think I was hysterical b4... you can imagine me now with all the veins in my head pulsating with passion :)

The idiocy of all this..and the danger..is that 'they just don't see it'.. I mean.. Aziza Abdul Hamid of the Muslim womens network agrees.
They want
-Changed lecture times
-Separate eating areas
-Female only areas for "Muslims" to relax

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23269447-12332,00.html

Now.. this was errr.. Feb 25th.

The woman behind some of this, Aziza Abdulhamid in 2005 declared:

"We must ensure imams are well grounded in Australian law and ways of life"!

Now..what happened between 2005 and 2008?

Nothing.. the reality is.. this has been and will be their agenda all along. Now we just see more of it.

Now.. maybe you don't care about the Chinese invasion of Tibet, but I do, just like I care about the "IsLamic" invasion of Australia.

If you don't call such requests an 'invasion' at the cultural, legal and social level, then mate.. GO..and get serious help.

Don't call me 'Islamophobic' just call me an Aussie patriot. (and no need for the smart alec quip about 'patriots':)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 7:01:25 PM
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Boazy ,I think I read an almost identical post 2 years ago. Some things never change .

Steven, What I do think would be of use would be a general compulsory subject on "Physical and Cultural Genocide and it's progression and use down through the Ages".

From the days of the old Bible, the Jewish Holoucast ,Indonesian Efforts in West Papua, Australian Indigenous Disposession and up to the previous Australian Government's efforts in Central Australia as they attempted to stop the effect of Ceremonial life on their nine to five work ethic ,it would give important lessons on human relations and what we should keep an eagle eye out for .
Posted by kartiya jim, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 8:16:28 PM
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