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Roo's 'N' Whales

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StG's asking for evidence, and the way you say 'at least you're thinking about it' is a hint that this is a matter you've considered quite deeply.

So I'd like to ask - what are the animals greenpeace is protecting in plague proportions?

And as you indicated before... what are the threatened species that Australians are apparently allowed to wipe out?

My point about Japan is that they shouldn't be allowed to capitalise on the gradually recovering whale numbers, seeing as in order for their harvest to be sustainable, it has to be them and them alone that hunts the whales.

And greenpeace is criticising the norwegian whale hunt, so what's your point there?

It's starting to sound more like a critique of the fringe leftists who bang on about protecting the wrong species, than a genuine criticism of Greenpeace, in which case, it seems we're agreed on things like the stupidity of Viva's attack on the roo cull.

But Viva isnt greenpeace, and roos aren't whales, though you seem to be arguing that they're similar.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Thursday, 20 March 2008 5:39:05 PM
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"The Gummint may have had something to do with it too.

Sure, they yielded to the Greenpeace hippies.

"StG's asking for evidence, and the way you say 'at least you're thinking about it' is a hint that this is a matter you've considered quite deeply.

How's this for evidence - 1000 Minkes per year over many years with no signs of stock collapse.

"My point about Japan is that they shouldn't be allowed to capitalise on the gradually recovering whale numbers

I suggest you stop lumping all whales together. There are different species you know. Some are endangered. Some are recovering strongly. Some were enver really in danger.

"seeing as in order for their harvest to be sustainable, it has to be them and them alone that hunts the whales

Wrong. They could split it 50/50 with us, if we were prepared to eat whale. That's what the role of the IWC should be - managing the harvest for sustainability (It's not my job to do this over an internet forum) rather than a blanket ban for the animal libbers.

"in which case, it seems we're agreed on things like the stupidity of Viva's attack on the roo cull.

I think it's great to point out hypocrisy, even if they have a different agenda and different values to me.

"though you seem to be arguing that they're similar

They are both food.
Posted by freediver, Thursday, 20 March 2008 6:29:41 PM
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Way to dodge the topic, Freediver.

And ya contradicted yourself.

"CJ I'm pretty sure the Minke's are nowhere near endangered. That Japs are taking about 1000 every year. No idea what the maximum sustainable yield would be, but it would be something worthwhile."

That was yesterday. Now you're;

"How's this for evidence - 1000 Minkes per year over many years with no signs of stock collapse.

Did ya get a degree overnight?.

My asking for evidence was in relation to;

"It is the hippies from Greenpeace that decided it is acceptable for 'indiginous' people to kill critically endangered animals while others in plague proportions should be protected."

AND

Where's your evidence Greenpeace ACTUALLY utilise racism as a tool for fund raising?.

AND

"Greenpeace is cutting back on the whaling issue because they have been called out on it in the mainstream press."

AND

"I would often see greenpeace fundraisers on a busy footpath with a big whale picture, a money box and a cute girl with something no-one actually reads printed across her chest asking for money to fight the Japs."

That isn't evidence, that's heresay. And probably bull.
Posted by StG, Thursday, 20 March 2008 7:21:01 PM
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So! How many more compromises are we going to make. Sustainability can only be measured by the amount of people that is needed with the resources that are available.

I will let you Annalise this for your selfs.
Posted by evolution, Friday, 21 March 2008 7:42:49 PM
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Whilst listening to early morning ABC Radio Australia this morning they mentioned how much fish is consumed on Easter Friday. The Christmas Ham is put on a back burner, an all out slaughter of fish & all seafood, except the precious whale! Their slogan was from the poor Australian Pig farmer who is doing it tough. "Save the fish, eat Pork & Ham!"
I say, take it further, "Save the Shark's Fin, Eat Whale Tail!"
Posted by ma edda, Saturday, 22 March 2008 6:06:08 PM
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Want to know more of how the Japanese think of Australia’s view on whaling watch what the man says himself.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=BTE6wTnkBd8
The speaker in the video

Joji Morishita, the International Affairs Division of Fisheries Agency of Japan. Deputy Whaling Commissioner of Japan.

Fisheries Agency of Japan (English)
http://www.maff.go.jp/eindex.html

america is killing rare whales.
watch this video.
[DragonBall] Freezer VS Japanese whaling
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Pug0yBA...

Whaling Section of Japan
http://www.jfa.maff.go.jp/whale/index... (less)
My source of information was from a fellow member on your tube,http://au.youtube.com/user/whaaaaaale He has also
Detailed information on ‘racism by Australians,’ on his your tube website.. Happy reading. No comment on my ‘humorous post?’
Happy Easter to you all.
Posted by ma edda, Sunday, 23 March 2008 9:42:48 AM
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