Why is it that the world of free expression of thoughts is being challenged by restrictive laws on expression; while the world of secret thoughts want to cry their ideas in the streets? Would it be that some have things they want hidden?

Typical BOAZ, generating hate and fear through misinformation and deliberate distortion: “IF.... the hate crimes legislation being considered by the US Congress is passed by the next president, the following could happen in regard to Christian broadcasters.

1/ Denouncing homosexual behavior would be a 'hate crime'.
2/ Describing non Christian religions as 'false' would be a 'hate crime'.
3/ The re-instatement of a broadcasting 'fairness' rule would mean that a Christian broadcasting body would have to provide free of charge, "equal time" for anti Christian material...”

BOAZ is unashamedly lying. The Bill defines hate crimes as willfully causing:

“bodily injury to any person or, through the use of fire, a firearm, or an explosive or incendiary device, attempts to cause bodily injury to any person, because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, or national origin of any person” or “because of the actual or perceived gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or disability of any person”

The proposed law allows for imprisonment for up to ten years for injury, but if the offence causes death or involves kidnapping or aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, you could get life imprisonment.

So is BOAZ arguing that it’s OK to incinerate a person, blow them up, shoot them, kidnap them, or sexually abuse them because you don’t like their race, religion, gender, sexual orientation or disability?

Not even BOAZ - despite his hatred of Muslims and gays - would be honest enough to admit that; so what’s he up to?

“So”, he says, “I am absolutely opposed to the idea of 'hate crimes' because of where they will in all likelihood 'lead'.”

The normal BOAZ fear-mongering by conflation of totally unrelated facts: Sweden has anti-hate laws and a pastor was allegedly gaoled for denouncing homosexuality; elsewhere, anti-hate laws allegedly ‘cover speech’; and in Victoria there’s “a track record of such legislation...” pandering to “the real objectives of ‘secularists’ (who are sometimes driven by other [unspecified] groups”.

BOAZ opposes US proposals to criminalise violent hate-based crimes on the spurious grounds that his own Christian hatred might be criminalized here.

I guess I don't learn but here goes...

Mr Right,

"Boaz I am sure people have told you this before but people dont choose to be gay."

"It would be good to see some proof to back up this statement."

You yourself believe that some homosexuality is attributable to "biological defects", "serious psychological problems" or perversion albeit not in that order of frequency. People don't choose to have psychological problems or perversion or biological problems. Your post is self contradictory. What is the point of proving something to you that you disagree with?

"I understand that a very small percentage of the world's population - around 1% - is homosexual because of biological defects,"

You conjure up a picture of parents using prenatal screening. No biological cause has been located.

"and the other 17% claiming to be homosexuals are perverts or people who have serious psycological problems."

The entire frequency percentage of homosexuals is typically considered to be 2.4% subject to calculations about homosexual suicides for which purpose it is considered to be 10%. Thus there isn't a 17% available. Or are you suggesting that many people claim to be homosexuals but really aren't? ("claiming to be homosexuals")

Didn't you know that the heterosexual, anglo, moderate male christian was to blame for everything David?.

Everyone else can say what the hell they want because this is a free country with freedom of speech, but if a 'HAMMC' voices their opinion it's called ignornace, bigotry, hate and intolerance.

I mean what is the point of challenging some to prove something to you that you already agree with.

challenging someone

I really need to proof read first and post later.