"So what were you saying about whinging?"

I was saying it irritates me. It's nothing to do with gender - I don't like when women whinge any more than I like it when men whinge. (And the author of this post is a male, by the way, aren't you Antonios?)

You're free to whinge as much as you like, of course, but if you feel annoyed that too many posts on the general forum are about women and not enough about men, then why don't you start one about men? No one is stopping you. Or if you'd just prefer that no one created posts about women, then why not join a men's forum?

They say the single male has the highest insecurities. lol

Vanilla: "..if you feel annoyed that too many posts on the general forum are about women and not enough about men, then why don't you start one about men? "

Indeed. I've often wondered why none of these sad and embittered men, who bleat on incessantly about their apparent gender problems, seems able or willing to initiate their own discussions - or actually submit the odd article - that articulate clearly and rationally their position.

Instead, whenever an article is published that addresses issues that primarily concern women, or somebody starts a similar general discussion, it attracts a litany of misogynist whining from the usual suspects. I agree with Vanilla - whingeing is not only annoying, but I'd add that it's mind numbingly boring.

Little wonder these guys seem so sad, angry and lonely. If their real life conversations in any way resemble their online efforts, they must inevitably end up talking to themselves. Normal, well-adjusted people would either leave or fall asleep in such company.

"these sad and embittered men, who bleat on incessantly about their apparent gender problems"

Problems so tragic, we might add, that they really put a chili pepper up the rectum followed by a pack rape that will never be prosecuted into perspective. Lord, the women of Pakistan are such *wingers*, aren't they?

Vanilla,CJ Morgan,evolution.
1. The title is not mine but from the Asian Human Rights Commission but I agree with it because there are so many evidence about women's victimization, because we have heard it from so many sides and corners from our planet. Some truths hurt but I will not hide them to seem nice. I write the truth and I promote the justice. Women's international day was an opportunity to promote their interests, to support them.
There are some women, a small number of them who do not accept men's support or involvement in their fight for their rights. I am sure most women understand that their problems are our problems, our society's problems. I know that there are many progressive women, that there are many women member of the ALP or Green Party, and I think most voters of the green party are women. I know that women are less racists than the men and more sensitive on Human Rights. ONLY IF I WAS IDIOT ONLY THEN I COULD NOT SUPPORT AND PROMOTE WOMEN'S INTERESTS. I ignore what any one think about it.
My goal is not to seem nice but to promote the ideas and interests I want.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Yeah, good on you Antonios.

CJ and Vanilla: silly billies! Of course the Usual Suspects aren't free to start their own threads! Don't you remember: evil women will stream from the bunkers and wreak their horrible revenge. Or Graham (actually a pseudonym for "Germaine")will alert the gestapofems who will monitor the thread and then use it to charge everyone for anti-femspeak. While the female judge, acting on secret orders from the real leader of the country in the Office of Women, will sentence them to hard labour for life:- cleaning out the sewers of all the horrid detritus of perfume, lipstick and sanitary napkins.