The problem with aborigines and their children is not very easy for many reasons. We, (non aborigines people) have destroyed aborigines' hopes, dreams, integrity, self esteem. We convert them from proud creative happy humans to bodies without soul. Can any one tell me what kind of dreams they could have? We took their land that's finished. their only choice is to become the lasts from the last. It is a joke if anyone think their discrimination, victimization and humiliation could stop from one day to an other. It will take many years until we (non aborigines people) learn to respect them. They are not idiots and of cause they could not trust us as they have so bad experiences from us.
The children of aborigines leave in a family environment very negative plus their general environment schools, roads, etc are very bad comparing with the general environment from the other Australian children.
How can these children compete with the other children? What probability they have to be winers?
We know that the battle for a better future for aborigines will not be easy and we know it will take some time, 2-3 generations. We have no choice, government, community and aborigines must start the big journey for a better future for aborigines, we own it to them, they deserve it.
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide

Dear Horus,

Professor Colin Tatz is actually now retired. So he doesn't have a career 'advantage' that he's pushing. And it wasn't about 'hit whitey,'at all. It was simply the results of his research.

Tatz, a South African political refugee, found in Australia echos of his own country. "People say to me," he said, "Surely South Africa was an example of dreadful, maniacal, premeditated racism where Australia was really a case of innocent ignorance. The truth is there is a tremenduous similarity, both in idealogy and notions of scientific racial theories: for example, the fuller the blood, the more primitive, the lighter the skin colour, the more salvageable.
The reserves, the exploitative labour, the sexual exploitation of women, the separate health system, the separate education, the ban on interracial marriage - all are the same."

Yes, I agree with you. It is time that we became one Australia - and now it may be possible with a PM - who has shown the right moral leadership and with these words, "...A future where all Australians, whatever their origins, are truly equal partners, with equal opportunities and with an equal stake in shaping the next chapter in the history of this great country, Australia!"

Cheers.

Steve,
runner mentioned an article written by Dr. Lara Wieland, called 'Break the cycle of disfunction' in todays 'The Australian'.

I think everyone who posts or reads OLO should read it. Also another article in same paper called 'Sorry to spoil the party' which is written about a speech Mal Brough made last week. They are currently on the main page until sunday evening, I think.

If what is stated is anything like the truth of the current situation, then one will realise the seriousness and the urgency of the task to give the kids any chance of a decent life.

It will be a massive job to give any sort of a credible result. I just hope the Government does not simply fiddle around the edges.

It is time that we became one Australia
Foxy,
It's not only time, it's well overdue thanks to many leftist agenda pushing & democracy hypocrite egotist Academics. Several attempts of uniting Australia have been sabotaged by the afore mentioned. I remember when 20 years ago a disgraced liberal was relied upon by Labor as an advisor. I have personally asked a previous Deputy Labor Premier on how his Government obtains the information in order to make policy in my particular electorate & he replied "Oh, we're in constant touch with (the disgraced liberal) & he provides us with all the facts we need". He then turned away & showed more interest in mating dogs. Several communities were on the verge of forming one Council & this particular former parliamentarian split up the communities, thus spoiling the Council formation. 20 years on & a Labor Government is pushing Council amalgamation.
I also know of quite a number of indigenous of high standing but questionable morals simply because useless bureaucrats, in order to gain immunity, encouraged them to go past the point of no return. Egotist power mongers will thwart any & effort for unity because it is a serious threat to their immoral practises, especially in remote communities.

Runner, Banjo,

Yes I read Lara Wieland's piece in the Australian and I agree. It is an invaluable reality check.

Here's a link to the article:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23222116-5013172,00.html

What can we do?

For a start we can impeach Judge Sarah Bradley.

See:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23216629-2702,00.html

A judge who allows gang rapists to go free.

A judge who gives credence to the idea that getting an 11 year old to suck your penis MAY be inducting the child into "men's business!"

Note that "men's business" has NO STANDING IN LAW. If you get an 11 year old to suck your penis you are guilty of statutory rape not to mention child abuse.

Have judges giving up on upholding the law in favour of "cultural sensitivity?"

With judges like this we need not worry about the introduction of shariah. We already have something that is arguably worse!

Is this the end result of multi-culturalism?

Danielle I wholeheartedly endorse your last post.

Ginx,

I don’t think anyone here is arguing that Aborigines have got a raw deal.

I have a feeling that refusing to uphold the law of Australia in Aboriginal communities may be doing more harm than (allegedly) stealing a generation.

I am left wondering whether at least some of the "stolen" generation" were not the "rescued" generation.

BUT

If, after being removed, the children were abused then they have a right to sue those who failed to exercise a duty of care. So do non-Aboriginal children who were removed.

If my comments make me a "racist" or an "unworthy Jew" in your eyes so be it.

Schmalz day - errh I mean sorry day – strikes me as a circus that may make some people feel good but will do nothing to improve the lot of most Aborigines for reasons I mentioned in my original post.

Stevenlmeyer:

1)I did not even imply that you were a racist, I HAVE called a nasty little diatribe that is being peddled on the net racist. And it is. (It was put up on another Australian Forum on the same day as it was put on a thread here, and was removed by the site owner;-as racist. That owner is a Conservative and only a partial supporter of the apology, but he would not allow that RACIST rubbish to remain).

2) Absolute shame on you!! I DID NOT suggest directly or indirectly that you were an 'unworthy Jew'. (God! the very phrase makes me shudder!). What I WAS referring to was that the Jewish race has known suffering, I would have expected a little more empathy from you. That was silly of me..
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We are spoiled for choice at the moment aren't we?
We have the choice of criticizing the apology;- at the very least placing conditions on it. OR; we can pick the hell out of anything Muslim.

Aborigine-Muslim. Oh happy days!