For that matter is the UN of any use ever?
The once truly elected leader of this country is no longer able to stand for Parliament , because she was wed to a foreign national?
A gang of thugs in army uniforms run the country and all the UN does is talk?
At least ten country's treat human life so badly and nothing but weak words why have a UN?

My understand is that its become a fizzer.
China and Russia seem to have big influences behind the scenes and would manipulate as much as possible for their own gains.
Christians believe that the final world government will be "the beasts" (click on the mark of the beast).
A combination of an Adolf Hitler figure (holocaust all over again) and a religious leader known as the false prophet. Everyone goes to the beast, drawn to him by the false prophet.
Rome in 2008 is drawing all religions towards a ONE WORLD CHURCH system with a single leader.
I think a pope will be the false prophet.
I believe this combination will be the final great power on earth. Poor UN ...she's almost gone.

Crimson hell! in a few words you take responsibility for this sham out of the hands of man.
If any God exists , and why must it be yours? why kill those who died here last September?
If God exists why give life to all those who follow other Gods?
The UN is a waste of air China but not Russia helps Burma.
Condemn me to hell Gibo but you try the same line in every post man must take responsibility for his own actions and man must never give up trying to be better.
Man one day will free himself from the childlike belief he can sit back and let God fix it.
And that every God is false except our own one.

Dear Belly,

It's a sad situation. It was only a few months ago that the United Nations Security Council was proclaiming its readiness to promote reconciliation after the brave thousands marched peacefully for democracy in Burma. Those same thousands have since been swept off the streets and into prisons or unmarked graves.

While the Buddhist monks and hundreds of thousands of sympathizers held the world's attention, the odious regime in Burma, promised to engage in dialogue with Aung San Suu Kyi, the democracy leader living under house arrest in near total isolation.

It promised, too, to permit U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon to send his special envoy, Ibrahim Gambari, any time he wanted. But no dialogue has taken place, and the regime won't give Mr Gambari a visa until April (if then). And the Security Council's response to this extraordinary insult to its mandate and prestige?

Last week, it mustered, not without controversy, a statement of "regret" at the "slow pace of progress."

Slow pace? Here's what's happened since Mr Ban put his, and the United Nations' prestige on the line, according to the Washington Post. More monks have been arrested. The death toll has yet to be made known. The regime raised the fee for satellite dish licenses from $5 per year to $800, or three times the average salary, so that its people - already impoverished by economic mismanagement and corruption - will be further cut off from the world. And meanwhile, Mr Gambari flies from Asian capital to Asian capital, hoping that someone will put in a good word for his visa.

The Bush administration officials are pushing China, India and the Europeans to pressure the Burmese, but without much luck.

China didn't even want Mr Gambari to brief the Security Council.

There are options beyond pleading: arms embargoes, stricter banking sanctions aimed at the junta members and their relatives, and more.

Whether they come into play depends on whether the secreatary general and leaders of nations that claim to respect the United Nations object even a little to its humiliation by a band of Burmese bullies.

Belly.
I saw your complaint as much about the UN as Burma, in fact more so at the writing of your first post.
I went on the tell how I felt about its demise and what the worlds final great governing body will be prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
Sorry Belly, its only Jesus for christians.
We get born again and stay in-Christ through some horrible deaths, some of us, because we have the Holy Spirit Who confirms the truth about God and His Word.
Its the way it is.
The rest belongs to the dark side and he laughs much about what he has achieved.
I wasnt saying that Russia was any power in Burma.
You presented the thread a little vague. I was saying that China and Russia are the powers in the UN.
Mans time is running out. Its too late to fix himself. The mark of the beast is already here, so the last great dictator will soon follow.
Times about up.

Dear Gibo,

I want to share a Serenity Prayer with you, I hope you'll like it.
Perhaps you already know it? -

"God, grant me the serenity to accept the thing I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
And the wisdom to know the difference."

Sounds good Foxy.

I am feeling a bit guilty, my post said it like I think, Foxy too said it like I think ,maybe like I should have.
Gibo I understand your zeal, I once thought it was the answer maybe I annoyed people too.
First rule I found in this forum was do not divert threads, I break that rule now.
See I have opinions on most things, but steer clear of some subjects, some I really want to take part in , to keep the Peace.
If I enter a thread or post one like this I would like to see as many different views as I can, Gibo that is how I learn.
And while I live I too grow, and learn.
Have your views no challenge, but let me have mine.
I understand the love and respect we find in every Gods books is a creation of men, that in my view there is no God.
And that a group called the United Nations exists why I will never know.
But that if we humans except genocide any place any time as Gods will we fail.
Half this world lives a dreadful life surely we do not wait for a fable to fix it?
You defame my life and my party in your Gods name by inferring the ALP is hidden communists party and went close to saying not me guilty as charged but my party's members are Godless?
Gibo tell me I am wrong to consider your brand of Christianity a threat no less than any fundamental one?

Gibo may I say the last words over the grave of a thread that was about human rights?
Thread that was about my deeply held concerns about why the UN ,in fact the free world sits on its hands while this country suffers?
May I highlight that beautiful Lady who won an election sits still a prisoner in her home?
Or that the military thugs who run this country did not let her visit her husband before he died?
That they have changed the laws so she can not stand for election?
Gibo may I tell you of the contempt some [not me [ hold BOAZ David in because he constantly openly preaches to us?
Is OLO to be a forum that is free for debate?
Or is every thread to become Christian vs the rest?
Can we talk politics and human right? or must we have every thread diverted?
We see so many threads changed to be about different things, is that needed?
How hard is it to start a thread?
Am I and my party , the one that leads us in every state to be branded evil because we are not as you want us to be?
OLO must be a place we can talk about issues, it can not thrive if we taint each threat, Burma we need to talk about why we can do nothing about it.
Review your actions Gibo would you except me getting into every thread and reminding you I believe in no God?
Even your one about gun clubs , so bizarre I just stayed away.
RIP Burma the debate

Belly.
Christians have a mission.
Part of its to relate world events to the Holy Bible and what the Holy Bible says.
This is what The Lord has Given to His church, the global Body of Christian believers.
This mission, for those who pick up the challenge in obediance, is what I do... same with BOAZ_David.
I try to relate all thats happening on the earth to Gods Word so you folks can be drawn by The Holy Spirit to an understanding of the great spirit war on earth; and receive an opportunity to receive the Saviour Jesus Christ into your lives.
I do it frequently...its the mission (Mark 16:15).
Picking on your ALP is not so much picking on them but telling the truth about the communism/evil spirit connection.
Fallen spirits got communism going, it entered the world and did its evil. Killed millions. People liked the idea of everyone equal and labor/trade union movements sprang to life and they picked up the demon ethic and ran with it. Those spirit powers are still doing the old commie today in amongst Labor people, in behind closed doors.
You dont hear the ALP pointing to Jesus as the great Answer or to the Holy Bible. The spirit powers didnt go away...they still hold much of Labor.
Burma is lost.
The UN is crumbling. She takes forever to do small things.
China and Russia and their evil spirit powers hold the UN by the throat.
Freedoms will never happen in Burma unless they go into Christian prayer.
No point in rubbing buddha lamps... that only brings up spirit powers from dark places.
If they wont pray to Christ then the last resort is "people power". They have to over throw the generals and take the loss of lives.
You young folk ought to read more carefully what I say. You read too fast, jump over bits here and there, and form wrong conclusions. I know the spirit realm and what goes on in areas men dont see. Just about all christians do if they have an interest.

Gibo I looked at your latest thread and I am not going near it.
In fact I had no intention of conversing with you again, but I will not walk away from your insults directed at my party the ALP.
Just maybe you should read and understand my post.
And just maybe you should find another way to insult my party, see I understand your post and you.
If you are right I am bound for hell, ok by me.
I do not wish to serve a God that seems to have followers not interested in the pain of others.
If I am right, that debate about crimes against humanity are not served by calling on a God I do not believe in is unhelpful, you are already in a hell of your making.
How can you demand respect when you condemn the people who from all walks of life includeimng the churchs put Labor in power?
Your huge ego that tells you every one who differs with you is not understanding you is foolish.
I say good by to you Gibo, you are free to say what you want but I would prefer not to talk Christianity in every thread.
Gibo you will know the page but doesn't it say as you sew so shall ye reap?
you are not sewing respect bloke , you can not plant spuds and be unhappy you are not picking bananas.

You just dont read, Belly, what people say to you.
The Bible say a wise man follows The Lord and His Word.
You would do well to stay away from any politicial group and get your focus on Jesus.
Perhaps youre too sensitive for such a forum as this.
Labor, to me, is just another cult group of good old "red" boys still hovering around that old communist dream... bent on doing exactly what they want to support global communism.
If China landed soldiers tomorrow... Labor would there with flowers in their hands. Theyre too weak to resist the old lure.

Gibo do you understand your own posts?

room exists to doubt you do.
I hope you do, no other excuse could be found for such spite from a Christian.
My first reply to you here had to be re written I made myself a promise.
Sadly the next front door evangelist who comes to my home will hear every word of it.
Leave it old mate you truly should.
If my country is invaded by people such as you I will migrate to China.
regards but no respect good by

Youre sidestepping all over the place Belly.
If you knew the spirit world you would know about communism and Labor.
I guess I will have to put it down to your inexperience and youth.
Wise men seek The Lord and the knowledge of the great spirit war in the heavenlies.
Once you get the knowledge you will see for yourself all of the connections.
Communism is still connected to labor and trade union movements. The dark side spirits see to it. Demon powers are still connected to eastern religions, evolution and humanist thinking.
You will be happier once you give your life to Jesus.
Everyone is.
Try clicking on <ghost attacked me says spooked alba>.
Its a small incident but gives insight into demon powers.
They are there... manipulating just about everything thats not of God.