*Another interesting fact, not by any means to be put aside, is that in every vision or prophecy I discovered, in some way or other, within the revelation given to the recipient, theres a mention of the sins of the Australian people as to why God would allow asian soldiers to land... and grab land.
Even though I talk about a home guard defence force (I do like a fair fight if theres going to be one) its really all to do with sin and Judgment.
Its really all to do with Christian Revival and re-awakening or Judgment for the sin.

"Come on TurnRightThenLeft.
Its all in the specific context of a home guard defence force, with guns secured away under lock and key from those that do criminal things."

Ah. I wasn't aware that 'those that do criminal things' could be identified on sight. Must be some special T-shirt that I'm not aware of.

Alternatively, the way you speak about keeping the guns under lock and key... you mean, like in an armory, for the military?

Hang on, we already do that...

TRTL.
I came here to the Forum originally to speak about revelations of an invader.
I went on to talk "home guard defence force".
Its needed...especially if you know your Bible.
Lets not nit-pick.
Governments and Defence have been slack and its going to cost lives somewhere.
The crux of what Ive said: based on revelations from The Lord.
*The enemy got here, grabbed a chunk of Australia and we werent prepared. I would like to see that altered a bit so we were to some degree more ready than is prophesied.
It will be terribly hard for those on the road south.
My heart is for them. The thousands flooding back into southern States.

Ah, right.

I suppose I was being foolish for thinking the 'bible' is an exceedingly poor platform to base a drastic overhaul of Australia's gun control laws upon.

Here I was thinking that instead, we should observe the high rate of gun violence in the US as an example.

Gibo you say: "Governments and Defence have been slack and its going to cost lives somewhere."

Um, no. You're just plain wrong here.

Not only have we injected more funds than ever into our defence forces, we also have a defence force that punches well above our weight internationally. The SAS are regarded as among the most elite soldiers in the entire world.

As usual, you're basing your arguments around a born-again-flying-saucer-inspired-religious-fanatacism which includes demonic possession as part of its spiel.

I say this now to highlight the irrationality of arguing for these relaxed gun controls. If that's all you've got as backing, then it's important that this be shown, because there are people out there with less patently ridiculous reasons who are advocating Australia relax gun laws. This would be a terrible mistake.

Not that I expect you to take any of this on board. I can't help but suspect that if the comments don't jibe with the view of the world you have constructed, demons and all, you're just going to ignore the decidedly more prosaic reality.

Despite the nonsense TRTL spouts about gun laws and America, I am 100% on board with him on this post.

Visions and prophecies by a bunch of Christians unmoored from the gift of discernment, are poor guides to reality. Gibo, I have been there and mate its a load of hysterical horseshit. Scripture is an amazing source, but not a starting point to fantasize a new reality.

There is real scope for citizens to contribute to the capability of our country to defend itself, but it must be based on realism and experience. We can support the military politically, we can fight the undermining of values, we can get training and experience in emergency work, we can build a culture of self-reliance and networked cooperation that is the backbone of a responsive and effective society.

In the example of Iraq citizens like us are trying to build a life amid violent attacks by religious extremists. The UN-mandated forces are now delivering high-quality service with precision-guided munitions and boots on the ground, badly undermined by political fashions in our own society. It is about civil society, teamwork, communication and constructive effort NOT indiscriminate weapons use. Rifles are just a useful tool - like cellphones!

In the case of threatened invasion of Australia, the most useful protection is 'engagement', backed by military capability - the strategy that is in place. Civil backup to military preparedness is the missing component.

Gun clubs are NOT serious military capability as they were from 1850 to 1950. We members are as a group too old and too few; the culture is sporting not military; and the widespread hatred and contempt fostered with political correctness will not permit them to become a strategic tool.

Im not talking relaxed gun controls TRTL.
Im not talking about gun controls in anyway. Different subject.
Im talking a citizens home guard defence force with guns locked away til a day of need.
You shouldnt believe all that promo from the Defence dept.
Its promo.
Glossy-for-us-Defencefolks-stuff to uplift who we are before the public.
Its promo. It makes Defence feel good.
I see Australias defence as third world... Ma and Pa Kettle.
If we take some of the guns off the people (post-Pt Arthur we did) an equivalent number needs to go back into Defence arsenals.
Whats so complex?
You stay away from all of that Defence promo TRTL. It covers the HOLE and the apathy towards filling it. Defence wants ships and planes and clanky subs.
And the enemy, any concerted enemy, will get here anyway. Paratroopers undetected would do it