The federal and state governments really arent looking after the kids.
Everyone is up in arms about teenage drunkenness yet where is the government awareness campaigns regarding the real dangers of hanging around pubs, clubs and nite spots?
No leader anywhere speaks out about the real hazards for teenagers of pub and nite club life. I never heard of it.
Death haunts these dark places. Drug dealers infest them.
A teen can get glassed even stabbed to death in a pub...its happening most days somewhere.
Where is the government warning?
Are we such a booze-oriented nation that we see nothing wrong with the teenagers getting caught in this lifestyle?
There are so many sad cases of young folk going into a dark hole and coming out with serious injuries.
Someone, maybe a K.Rudd, or a M. Ilemma... needs to talk about it in front of the tv cameras.
Why would you go to a pub with so much violence in them these days?

I think people are aware of the risks. A club is actually far safer than a private party. You don't get pot smoking out in the open - you don't even notice it unless you go looking for it. They are crawling with bouncers. We don't need the government to tell us the obvious - that you can get into a fight at a bar.

Indeed. I'm with Freediver.

It happens, and yes, it happens on a basis that is far too frequent, but it's not as common as your post makes out. I have a suspicion that you're not speaking as a regular pub-goer yourself, instead going by media reports, which as with most cases, tend to sensationalise the situation and make it out to be more severe than it really is.

It's not the government's place to tell us this. It's not up to you or the government to tell the teenagers to stop participating in this lifestyle.
Most will grow out of it. Some won't. That's their choice.

Freediver ~ "A club is actually far safer than a private party. You don't get pot smoking out in the open - you don't even notice it unless you go looking for it."

Sigh. Can't remember the last time I saw a fight as a result of people smoking pot. I also can't remember the last time I went to the pub and the place didn't end in some drunken brawl.

Pubs and clubs are no more or less safer than doing anything else. More safer than driving, I'd suggest. Common sense prevails in certain situations. People generally get hurt cause they don't acknowledge the early signs of danger and walk away.

I was thinking that public awareness, by good government, might help encourage some of the dumber teens to at least think about where theyre going in their social practices...a sort of duty of care. My wife said her brains didnt kick in until she was 27. Not by any means being dumb, she takes that as a standard for young girls. Thats a lot of misery young girls can get into in the booze scene between drinking age of 18 and the late 20's. A lot of guys are not much brighter though as a rule I think after highschool, around about 22-23yrs old, they tend to calm down. I just see a world of violence at the moment and much of it is pub/club related. Governmments also seem to me to be in decline allowing many moral codes to slip. Theres not a person in the land in a seat of power that is speaking about the sex criminals porn is creating. Its all looking like what 2 Timothy 3 says about the last days, with no really good strong men in government to attempt to stop it...apart from that grand old christian gentleman Fred Nile.

This is a good topic to raise. I think to fine the parents if they are under age which many are( big Fines)

Other than that it really is the way kids are raised.
Perhaps we need to start at base camp.
Control who is having babies first and issue licences.
Some people should not have kids because they are not a good example and many live off welfare.
Thats is where this should all go back to IMOP.
For now I guess all one can do is teach our own and keep a close eye on them while asking for more police and start putting more behind bars.
No easy answers I am afraid. You right it is a huge problem and getting worse by the day.

People are no longer safe walking of an evening.

Tonight on A Current affair they showing a town somewhere that are taking matters into their own hands because its so out of control
A bunch of oldies. If I knew where they were and could find time I would give them a hand.
These kids have made these peoples lives a hell after coming our from pubs and clubs.
There is no respect anymore. Maybe invest in a cricket bat.

Bottom line its a parent thing and not really up the Gvernment to teach our kids right from wrong= but Hey somebody has to.