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Hate Speech-Are Human Rights groups the forerunner to ORWELLIAN social control ?

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What do they look like in their high-waisted shorts and tucked-in tank tops?

Or do they wear their lederhosen?

Must be distracting for you. Could you post some photos?
Posted by Vanilla, Sunday, 27 January 2008 10:20:01 PM
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Boazy, seems to me that we accept that anything can be said or depicted in the media re Christianity and other religions without worry that we are offending adherents. The failure of most western media to reproduce the offending cartoons was peculiar. Maybe fear, maybe hypocrisy, maybe confusion over notions of freedoms of speech and thought.

Maybe posters here should state whether or not they have seen the cartoons? I have, and am disgusted that people died because of them; particularly in the knowledge that some Islamic sub-cultures have historys of depictions of Mohammad themselves.

That the weight of a western State is engaged to do the work of fundamentalist thought is worrying.
Posted by palimpsest, Sunday, 27 January 2008 10:20:54 PM
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"Why did a Jewish publisher of a conservative magazine deliberately publish a series of Danish cartoons of the prophet Muhammad?"

WHY NOT?
WHY NOT?
WHY NOT?

Is it out of character for the media( generally) to lampoon religious icons?
Is it unheard of for the Arab/ Islamic media (&, even school text books) to lampoon jews?
And what is the offical Islamic take on Judaism: it is said to be a distortion, a corruption of the word of God.

Is it unheard of for Islamists to burn & deface our flag(read: secular icons)?

Are the criticisms of the Danish cartoons sensitivity , or , "apologism" , "appeasement" & hypocrisy, masquerading as sensitivity?
Posted by Horus, Monday, 28 January 2008 7:37:56 AM
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Boaz, the problem described in the video, and underlined by subsequent commentators, is the threat to free speech.

Your initial post could have been interpreted to highlight this, and presented a cause upon which you and I could fight side by side, shoulder to shoulder, against the creeping dead hand of bureaucracy.

Unfortunately, you can never resist the opportunity to turn it into the more familiar Boaz whack-a-mozzie rant, can you?

Shame.

But I guess, to a hammer everything looks like a nail.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 28 January 2008 7:49:53 AM
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Hello Horus,

Because, Because, Because...

Considering the sad history of the his (Jewish) people, I would have thought that Ezra Levant would have been more sensitive to the stereotyping of people from other religious groups. I know that caricatures, satires,ethnic jokes, are part of the so called "freedoms" of our society. But there is also a line that impinges on things like -
"good taste." That you simply don't cross. It's not a class act to do so. As I tried to point out in my earlier post - freedom of speech -
does carry with it certain restrictions if we are to have cohesion in our society. Put simply - treat others as you would want to be treated. Respect, Respect, Respect...
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 28 January 2008 5:42:52 PM
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As Foxy said, there is more to that Danish cartoon controversy than was reported in the mainstream media.

It's old news now but as well as the unnamed players involved in the event and the behind-the-scenes political machinations (right up to the Prime Ministerial level), the actual motive was indeed to deliberately provoke a hostile response from the Muslim community. This was obviously successful but the reason actually doing this is not so apparent.

There was also some internal provocation from inside the international Muslim community to fuel that response - probably for the same reason - and both events were likely part of the same agenda.

Of course, you can just accept it at face value.
Posted by wobbles, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 12:37:07 AM
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