"One can almost guarantee more people than wild cows or bulls would be shot, either by accident or on purpose "

That being the case, Jim, why hasn't it happened already?

They're not asking to be allowed to get handguns but to keep the ones that they already have ON LICENCE..

IS Mise No doubt all those unregistered, unlicensed handgun will remain with their current owners anyway. It will be just like when they changed the gun laws here, only those that were on record were handed in.

Pale Interesting comment about the snakes. Dont they have just as much right to life as sheep, brumbies etc?

I live in brown snake country and it was very hard to deal with at first but once you get a better understanding of them, they are far more afraid of us than we are of them. Yes, if there is one hanging around the house i will kill it, but if I come across one elsewhere, live and let live I say.

PF

NO In my book...

They kill stock in the most painful dreadful death and a horse, cow, goat, kangaroos; birds to me must be protected as much as possible.

People are getting bitten all the time up here and in the city areas too.

The stupid idea of protecting them has them breeding so many we are putting and adults kids in danger. Also snakes are changing.

They are becoming far more aggressive.

Once a snake wouldn’t attack unless trod on.

They killed four horses in the last eighteen months up on my sister and brother in laws farm.

For years Garth used to catch them and drive them down the mountain.
i kept telling him they would come back.

These darn things fight for every inch of the territory.

They killed my own horse and best friend Bing here last year.

I am not talking about bush PF. I am talking about ten hects right in the middle of the Gold Coast.

They are in back yards! People are moving out because their places are riddled with snakes and nobody will help them.

These are not bush people but city people. They even go into the swimming pools. It’s quite common up here.

In QLD people are getting bitten and they are coming into houses where they never used to before.

Some kids have them as pets too because Bindy likes them. Then of course the rotten things escape and breed.

No No PF. Snakes are not entitled to live as much as we are and our stock and pets and kids are.

My Dad was a old bullock team driver and back in those days they pretty much respected their stock a lot more.

Dad slept with a big red belly once all night because his Dad which would be my grand father wouldn’t lend him a match to see.

They were tough old days and they only had two matches left for the rest of the stay in camp where they were snigging logs.

BTW I feel the same about Crocs too. Another stupid decision .

Sounds like these pastoralists have had their pistols as part of
their licences for years, without problems. Some guy in Perth
in the police dept, is just scratching himself, wondering what
could be changed. He needs to get out and spend a couple of
weeks on a station and he might rethink things.

Off topic but there we have it. Gertrude dislikes snakes
and crocs. She seems to prefer those species with dopey eyes, that
stir up the maternal hormones and give her a warm fuzzy feeling inside,
which snakes and crocs clearly don't do for her, as they tend
to eat other species.

Hey, without predators, millions of herbivores would die slow
deaths from starvation. They have a role to play in nature,
ignore them at your peril.

Yabby said

Gertrude dislikes snakes and crocs

Pale replies

No Sir Gerti, I don’t like them.

I dislike fashionable campaigns to look after snakes and crocks designed to benefit just a few tourism .

This affects other people’s lives styles for the worst.

Snakes are now out of control and moving into cities and Government has zero assistance.
However they warn families not to kill they or they will be charged.

Next week friends of mine have to move because they are terrified of them and that their kids will be bitten.

Snake handlers charge over three hundred and fifty dollars to just come out in the city= If you can get one.

Anyway the snakes bolted by the time the arrive and who can afford that every day.

As for Crocs go up the Daintree and see the old timers since they protected them.

Talk to the people who used to only have to swim across the river the school or the neighbors that otherwise couldn’t get there.

The guys who used to earn a quid from fishing and even water skiing.

Ever been out there Yabby? It’s B hot and these creatures deprive the locals from a Swim in the river.

Anyway it’s SO Stupid. I was looking into the evil eye of a croc just last week up a River.

Albert was twelve meters long. This bloke runs people up there in a "low open boat."!

The croc was creeping closer to the bank then coming back out gaining a inch or so each time. The old timer driving the tinny was edging up closer and closer.

Apparently Albert is suspected of killing a woman there several years ago at the back of their property on a steamy night after a party and Gummy another huge Croc.

My point is these tours are "dangerous unregulated" and "stuffing" up "everybody else from having a life style."

They used to Swim in there all the time but cant now since this stupid protection law.

Keep some and in one or two rivers for tourists. Shoot the god dam rest!

Pale, I do understand why you are afraid of snakes, but we are talking handguns here and the need for them in the bush. A snake in the bush should be allowed to live. No reason to go shooting it.

Iam a little dissappointed in your attitude to snakes and that you do discriminate between animals and dont treat them all as the living creatures that they are. Yes, a snake hanging around the front garden is a threat and I can agree it be necessary to get rid of it.

Everything has its place in this world and I am sure the snakes fits it nicely somewhere .....