I would be more than happy to say in the past I got a bit too hot a few times.
In real life those who know me understand I would not without provocation insult any one.
Search the posts highlighted and yes you will find I did use those terms, before you convict me see why I did so provocation aimed to hurt me.
See posts in the car parks, both mine and others.
For my sometimes offensive retaliations I WAS wrong , I truly will not do it again.
Search my posts, I often search others , reading what others think is half my reason for being here.
Fair minded people will see I have offered the peace pipe very often, no more.
I watch others say if you differ with some you will be insulted live threads here prove it.
It lowers the standards of our forum to even debate with some, I never will again.
We must understand we are all wrong sometimes, and that no law exists that we must agree with every thing others say.
I will leave threads rather than make trouble but the group who haunt me must try to keep the verbal boots in their cupboard, people who think insults are only a tool for them are quite wrong.
I have no idea who posts as pale today and not many do , with respect let us agree we have nothing in common and end this childish mud throwing.
And if some do not have the time to re read threads let me remind you, the first stone was an insult that I am not a union official.
It is untrue and was used as a weapon to hurt a debating tool , yet at least I understand my harsh words never should have been needed, truly most I Believe have long ago formed their own views about pale and about me too.
Thanks to those who contributed to a worth while thread I will keep my promise no matter what future provocations come my way, and they will sadly come.
regards

I think that’s as close as we are ever going to get to an apology.
Please know we have never directed comments about ALP personally at you.
We do tend to crack jokes but that is to defuse not enforce.
Umm, just a tad confused re the job description. It was yourself who posted that not us.
How on earth would we know what anybody did for employment unless informed.
Regardless forgotten now I hope.
May I suggest with respect that in a political forum people make political comments.

We can’t not make political comments and do our job at the same time.

We sincerely regret that you have taken our comments regarding ALP as a personal insult. It is not now and never was our intention.

(Jokes aside) We will always crack jokes belly.

It’s just us. - Nothing personal.

Howard’s Government received far more attention given they had years to do the right thing.
ALPs track record isn’t much better I am afraid.

Try not to take comments personally if they involve your party is my advise to you.
Remember we work with amieu so it’s not like we don’t support the people doing the right thing. I am sure you try to do likewise.

Best wishes for your future endeavors belly
Pale
Australia Day
2008

My last comment I will ever make to your group, the host who post as pale, and pale admits it is many, share one symptom.
A deliberate verbal assault takes place against those who hold differing opinions, this is always followed with a we did not mean it mate denial.
The post saying I was not a union official was a planned insult, known to be both wrong and that it would hurt me in my deepest feelings.
It is true that if you disagree with pale you will be insulted.
I without shame am an alpha male, yet I would spring to open a door for any female or to protect her till death.
If she knew more than me I would follow her without pain equality is my dream.
My apology is both true and forever yet I do think pale owes many who post here much more.
In a post this last month pale asked Foxy to pat sky for them,my dog, on face value a mistake, but that driving concern pale has that some of us are others who once crossed verbal swords with pale concerns me.
Does one of those who post as pale think I am Foxy?
So very many times I asked those posting as pale to consider why more than one do so, how can we debate if its a tag team?
Why not consider this?
I have no idea who I debate with , but a good understanding no mistake has been made the venom in some pale posts is on display.
Last I have an active interest in stopping true animal cruelty so follow such threads , but refrain mostly from posting, why take the risk?
It concerns me however, how can a meat export company also be an animal welfare group?
I believe we have reached an agreement , we will not again talk to each other let us leave it at that.
Pause before posting pale please consider how many you have crossed swords with here and ask your self , are others opinions their Right?

Pale replies
Yes I did see your comment in the meat forum and thought it was a interesting one.

Belly. Nobody is interested what people do for a living.

A few posts above I think you said you were upset because somebody referred to you as a union official. "Now it’s the other way around".

Look I don’t have the time to waist on this type of stuff.

Why do you keep making posts about yourself? Why not just debate the topic.

Although I am sure some of us form bonds it’s not a place to come to meet new friends it’s a forum for political comment.

Your own common sense must tell you that if you keep saying you are a union bloke someone will tell you what they think of unions in general and many comments you might not like.

I myself don’t like unions. I remember what is like trains buses planes even nurses.

However I don’t hold "you" responsible for goodness sake.

I do on the other hand reserve the right to debate unions if I so see fit.

Belly said
It concerns me however, how can a meat export company also be an animal welfare group?

Pale replies

The Company HKM is a separate ID from pale that works to promote the chilled trade to replace the live animal trade.
RSPCA QLD working with pale and Muslim leaders has attempted to spear head this project to phase out live in replacement of chilled.
BTW pale do not fund raise unlike every other organization and our staff are none paid.
HKM is supported strongly by the Humane Society and Bridgett Bardott.
The truth is Yabby and PF [who are both farmers are right)
Some groups seem to do a lot of fund raising and nothing else.
Pale is not one of them. In that way we are a bit like you.
We wear our hearts on our sleeves and put our own money where our mouths are.
Have a good Day Belly