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Referendum on Who and How Many make thier Home Australlia?

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Be wary of press releases Scotty. Let's see now - that link is from the Christian Democratic Party saying guess what! The Christian Democratic Party is right!

Has it occurred to you this may be a little biased.

Some credit however - it's based on polls from other organisations instead of their own - okay.
The thing is Scotty, voluntary polls are rejected by pollsters as inaccurate. The only accurate polls are when you have a proper sample.

When you ask a question such as that one, you will attract the people who feel passionately about it. In this case, that's likely to be anti immigrationists, instead of the more relaxed, live and let live, people in the population.

Programs such as Today Tonight (dodgy programs, I should say) often use their own viewer polls to back something, but the fact of the matter is - the people who take the time to actually do the poll probably have an axe to grind.

Here's an alternative poll for you Scotty, which used an actual sample:

The federal election.

Where Fred Nile failed comprehensively.
If people did overwhelmingly believe in Nile's calls for a moratorium on muslim immigration and felt it was indeed such an important issue, why did nobody want to vote for the guy?

What about One Nation? Why'd nobody wanna vote for them either? What about Pauline's United Australia Party? Why'd that one fail, Scotty?

Was it those wascally leftists again?

Actually, I'm rather glad that the extreme anti-immigrationists tend to be exemplified by voices that sound like Scotty's.
If they were less prone to fits of anger and wild rhetoric they may be able to persuade more people, but as it stands they keep shooting themselves in the foot.

Oh, and in the case of 'their' it's e before i. That's how we do it here in Australia.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Friday, 7 December 2007 4:13:28 PM
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Dear TRTL,

Thank you so much for bringing me back to reality. I was beginning to think that this forum was infiltrated by hacks - of the worst kind. Because some of the hateful things that were being written here did not represent the Australia I knew and loved, and it was frightening.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, and inevitably we will disagree on certain things - but to come out with name calling, and such prejudice - argued in such an illiterate manner - beggars belief. I was actually contemplating of totally pulling out of this forum. So again - Thank you .
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 8 December 2007 7:37:30 AM
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Quite so, Foxy. Well said, TRTL and others.

I too have noticed an upsurge in the expression of hateful ideas recently at OLO, usually expressed intemperately in poor English. My theory is that the lunar right and their knuckledragging cohorts are expressing sour grapes at having been so convincingly trounced at the recent election.

Since they can't admit that the mean-spirited and divisive ideologies of the Howard government were responsible for its rout, they seek to transfer blame to the usual victims of their bigotry - people like migrants, refugees and homosexuals. Once they get it out of their systems, I'm sure they'll crawl back under their rocks.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 8 December 2007 9:20:01 AM
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Corri, 'Why would we benefit from Northern European stock more than Asian, the America's or even the Middle East?'

Purely and simply because those people are of our culture and therefore there would be no problems fitting them in and they wouldn't be agitating to bring foreign cultures into the country as 'equal opportunities' etc. Do you think that Asian and Middle Eastern countries would welcome White immigrants? In the interests of so-called equality, I would like to know your views on that.
Posted by Jack the Lad, Saturday, 8 December 2007 2:42:23 PM
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Jack the Lad, what exactly is the Australian Culture, what is our Australian Identity - What are your views?

We are a 'young country', some say we are the "invaders from the north."

Seriously, have we been here long enough to have a culture, what about indigenous Australians and their culture? What about all the other cultures that have emigrated to Australia?

Should we talk about the "White Australia" policy of Menzies? Have we grown up, moved on since then?
Posted by Q&A, Saturday, 8 December 2007 3:05:00 PM
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Q&A, we could be seen as "invaders from the north", but that's because when the first fleet arrived, they found a Stone Age culture that had never done anything worthwhile for millenia. Cultural invasion is different.
Real Autralian culture is still really limited to European standards as most non-Euro immigrants don't appear to want to fit in but, instead, force their own religions and cultures on us.
What's your view on how Asian and Middle-Eastern countries would react to White immigrants?

CJ, when you wrote, 'the lunar right and their knuckledragging cohorts ' did you mean fascists from the moon? Or was it just a bit of 'vacuous sloganeering'?
Posted by Jack the Lad, Saturday, 8 December 2007 3:33:31 PM
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