Philo, do you think I should be able to choose the "most socially ideal environment" for your kids? As it is, I'm quite concerned about them growing up among attitudes such as those you have displayed. Indeed, it would be far more beneficial to ban bigots from raising children than same-sex couples.

We have laws in place that permit governments to remove children from home environments that are unsuitable for children. I'm willing to bet that in percentage terms, more children are removed from homes based around heterosexual couples than same-sex couples (anyone got any numbers?). Same-sex unions (where they are legal) are also generally far less likely to end in divorce.

Oh, and in the US, ~250,000 children are being raised by same-sex couples. You'd think if there was a serious problem, we'd know about it by now.

Philo, you speak of social ideals, but would you deny the two sisters the right to raise the child, in the same manner you would for a homosexual couple?

Philo wrote: "The child has not witnessed the loving relationship of his father toward his mother, and if so it would not be socially ideal."

Surely, by this logic, loving same-sex parents are better than divorced heterosexuals?

I honestly can't see why anyone would be hung up on this. My ex-boyfriend's mum was a lesbian. I remember his sister telling me that she had quite a lot of cred at school because of it. Loving parents trump divorce and disharmony any day.

Anyway, back to the Robot Porn for me.

They weren’t musings about the dog, mjpb. I made an (admittedly lame) off-colour joke. After all the off-colour remarks about gay sex, I believe I was entitled to respond. At least in my case it was clear that the remark wasn’t intended to be taken seriously.

“What do you think?” I’ve made it abundantly clear what I think of your rhetorical tactics. I don’t see any need to repeat myself.

wizofaus, If your statistics are correct is it any wonder the USA is in dire social problems.

You said "Oh, and in the US, ~250,000 children are being raised by same-sex couples. You'd think if there was a serious problem, we'd know about it by now."

TRTL,
Two sisters have often raised children. In my first year at school I lived with my two unmarried aunts who lived near the school I attended. It was rather sad really because my brothers and sisters lived with my parents and I missed them. My parents sold the farm and moved so I could live at home and attend school. I being six missed most of all helping my dad on the farm.

"I’ve made it abundantly clear what I think of your rhetorical tactics. I don’t see any need to repeat myself."

Often when you do so it is quite obscure and extreme. Taken at face value you sometimes sound paranoid. Ironically therefore it has made me wonder if arguing that is your own rhetorical tactic.