A lot of effort seems to be being expended on claiming children are at risk if same sex marriage is allowed.

I'll conceed the possibility that two paedophiles might decide to fake it to get overcome one of the hurdles of access to children but from what I've read paedophiles like access to lots of kids and the screening process is very rigerous so that should be a very low risk.

I don't get the bit where an attraction for gay sex is supposed to imply an attraction for child sex. An attraction to adult women does not imply an attraction to young girls. If the stats are to be believed the majority of children who are sexually abused are abused by adults of the opposite gender, mostly girls by hetrosexual men but few would seriously consider banning hetrosexual marriage on that basis.

Is there any evidence which suggests that gay adults are more likely to be attracted to children (and act on that attraction) than hetrosexual adults? I'm not talking about the thinking that says gays are perverts and therefore capable of any evil that someone wants to imagine they do but rather a solid body of evidence.

If there is not substantial evidence proving that then the claims about protecting children are a ruse.

As for children growing up in an unusual home situation, plenty do for a variety of reasons. I'm a single dad with almost full care of my son. That is not a very common situation either.

R0bert

J Bennet,

Your bigotry is no longer covered by your threadbare arguments. Even your "think about the children" (which is generally the last resort of the desperate) is without substance.

Just come out and say you hate homos and they should not have any rights then maybe we would believe you. Justifying prejudice might make you feel better, but it does nothing for your credibility.

CJ, homophobia is no more a psychological affliction than racism, love for one's country (the sort of things you are phobic about) etc. It is a genuine disgust at those gay practices nothing more, nothing less. In fact, it's not even a phobia as that would imply fear which would lead to one hiding from the phenomena, not speaking out against it.

For a supposedly 'enthusiastic heterosexual', you sure go to some lengths to defend poofs etc. Maybe you're in denial. Come on out of the closet, CJ.

As for my 'peurile attempt' to suggest you're gay, you were first to comment on your limited view of my sexuality. I must have struck a nerve to get a reaction out of you. So, if anal sex is not filthy and unnatural, where's your evidence?

Homophobes, as you persist in calling them, are not in the minority. Most straight people are repelled by gays but, because of media bias and the like, feel that they would be accused of that heinious thought/hate crime of vilification if they spoke out.

If you are really in a hetero relationship yet believe anal sex to be a normal hetero practise, I pity your woman. Maybe she needs someone to show her how a man does it. I'm not busy this weekend.

J Bennett: now your ignorance is well and truly on display:

"They already have civil unions just not marriage and kids. Disappointing them about not getting kids can't be more damaging. Their perversion causes them to kill themselves."

Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.

You haven't the faintest idea what the situation is like here in Australia. Have you been living in a bubble? Haven't you been watching the news?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Nelson-backs-gay-reforms/2007/12/02/1196530462124.html

"New Opposition Leader Brendan Nelson has backed equality of economic treatment for homosexual couples, ramping up pressure on Labor to carry through on promises to remove discrimination."

"However Dr Nelson ruled out supporting gay marriage, adoption or access to fertility services."

Two separate issues here J Bennett, but your ignorance in thinking civil unions are accepted astounds me. What is it you think Nelson's arguing for in the first paragraph?

Jack the Lad what a witty attack attack on CJ - offering to show his wife how a real man does it. Never seen such a clever attack before.

Of course the chances of CJ's wife not finding that idea disgusting and repulsive are fairly low so you might have to get used to yet another weekend with nothing to do. Your homophobia and your need to proclaim yourself to be a real man suggests that you may be the one in denial about something.

My impression is that CJ is comfortable enough in his own skin that he does not need to try and repress in others all that is different. That he has enough of a life of his own that he does not need to offer to give other peoples partners a little something to prove what a man he is.

R0bert

Jack the Lad,

Are you so unsure of your manhood that you feel you have something to prove?
How a person has sex varies - you know that. It's a personal choice and as I said earlier - sex means a thousand different things to a thousand different people.