This bogas flyer thing is a good example of why I am no longer involved with any political party. Despite all the hard work and expenditure there always seems to be some idiot that unthinkingly stuffs things up. All parties seem to have such fools. At times one would think they are deliberate acts and they are working for ones opponants. I do not blame their opponants from exploiting these stupid errors.

Sometimes the gross errors are from the party leaders and other times from key people or rank and file party members. One would think they are on dope to act so stupidly.

Make no mistake all parties suffer from the same stupidity. There are plenty of examples from all parties.

There are allegations that some 13 Labor party candidates did not resign from public service jobs before nominationg as candidates. It would not surprise if this was correct, a fundamental error. If so any of those that win at election could be dismissed. By-elections would have to be held and it could cost the elected government the election. Like the bogas flyers, there is no excuse for such stupid fundamental mistakes.

I will no longer put my time, effort and money forward to have it blown to nothing because of stupid words or acts.

Question: Describe the outcome if a Liberal Party member had not tipped off the ALP that this racist pamphlet was being distributed in Lindsay?

Question: How did the Liberal Party members come to think distributing such a pamphlet would benefit them and damage the ALP?

Question: Apart from scale, how does the racist pamphlet scam in Lindsay differ from the top level Liberal concoction of the Tampa and children overboard scams?

Anyone got any answers?

I've been fascinated with the range (and tone) of responses.

The links to Cronulla riots, the discussion of Labours possible non compliance to nomination rules, the general dissatisfaction with politicians.

Then, FrankGol's post stole my thunder - the question of why would the Liberal party leak this information?

Funnily, our wider perception of politicians is remarkably high, with both Howard and Rudd polling very well in terms of their approval rating. Beyond the leaders there seems to be a chasm in both parties.

One question that hasn't been really answered is will this affect the wider electorate, specifically the swinging voter.

To PeopleAgainstLiveExports&IntensiveFarming, I hope that you are not presenting a view held by the majority ... after all I am an immigrant, albeit British, but all the same I've arrived and set up my home in Australia. Many others, regardless of persuasion have done the same ... in fact the further we trace back the wider the net is cast.

That said, wave after wave have encountered this mentality of "we don't want you". This may be best saved for another thread ... but I'm saddened by this sentiment.

Very good questions FrankGol and no doubt you have answers yourself – please enlighten us.

Here is another question;

Does anyone really believe the Liberals are so stupid (when you look at the credentials of those involved) regardless that they were “sprung”?

It appears the powers that be are again trying to drive a wedge into the campaign just prior to Election Day – a *fear* wedge based on race and religion. Just look at the response from PALE and Arjay.

These tactics helped Howard previously and they may yet help him again.

Q&A, Global warming and our imminent demise are sold to us by fear of the future. The unions and Labor have used fear in their IR campaigns. The Libs. use fear our of being overrun, fear of unions. Not pretty at all.

9-10 months ago Philip Adams happily told us of his knowledge of Labor electoral role rigging and of the dead voting, on LNL. He thought it was funny. Remember to vote early and vote often

Your turn Corri, it’s your thread after all. Can you posit answers to the above?

It appears not too many others are prepared to confront the issues or answer these questions – this is the scary bit.

As we have seen, some think the sky is falling and the reds are coming - typical last century thinking with no vision, for Australia or humanity.