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Feminists are *officially* better in bed

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Feminists better in bed? That's like saying, "Librarians are novel lovers." Or, "Architects have huge erections." Or, "Accountants know how to score." et cetera. In our society there are vast individual differences in the way men and women interpret their roles. This is to be expected in a society whose hallmarks are choice and diversity.
However, research into the sexual practices of people is very limited and often unreliable.

The greatest obstacle is the difficulty of surveying a representative, random sample of the population. It's easy enough to discover how people will vote or which brand of soap they use, but it is much more difficult for researchers to inquire in depth into the sex lives of complete strangers. Understandably, many of those sampled will refuse to respond. Since these people differ in unknown but perhaps significant ways from those who are willing to answer, the results of the survey may be biased.

In addition, many who do answer may not always tell the truth. No sex researchers have yet been able to fully overcome these problems.
Having said that I will add that in general, sexual attitudes have become more permissive. One interesting effect of the changing relationship of the sexes is that the responsibility for a successful sexual encounter has been largely shifted from the female to the male encounter. A common problem in the past was female "frigidity" - the inability of a woman to achieve orgasm or even to enjoy sex.

Today, "frigidity" has all but disappeared; instead, the same problem is more likely to be labeled as one of poor "performance" by the male.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 November 2007 2:42:52 PM
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Foxy, as usual, you wander in with good sense and compassion. You are quite right about sexual surveys - though there have been comprehenisve and ground-breaking surveys, like Kinsey's, it is very common for people to lie. Men routinely exagurate the amount of partners they've had, while women underestimate, leading to an impossible imbalance.

Nevertheless, it seems entirely possible to me that people in relationships in which they view each other and social and intellectual equals – who honestly admire and like each other on many levels – are going to have a raunchier sex life than those invested in outmoded gender roles. I'm certainly not surprised by these findings.

By the way, Boazy, you cited this:
>>Older men with feminist partners reported more stable relationships and greater sexual satisfaction.<<

And wondered, "err... greater than....?"

It means that older ("older" means older than the other, college-aged group in this survey) men with feminist partner reported more stable relationships and greater sexual satisfaction than older men whose partners did not consider themselves feminists. Sorry the original article wasn't clearer - I just cut and pasted it.

I think everyone should note that the findings were true for both women who considered themselves feminists and MEN who considered themselves feminists
Posted by botheration, Friday, 16 November 2007 5:10:22 PM
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Hi Botheration.. I hope my 'creationist' credentials were duly represented :)

Steven still need some counselling though.. he is calling evolution a 'fact' :) but of course he really means (and I agree) "Natural selection" is a valid life process..

It stil bears repeating though.. the best sex is that had by people who are right with their Creator. Its a different type of sex too.. in the sense of... it is seen as part of the marraige relationship.. in context..and it is also an expression of a value system which is under God.

I think it can best be described as that which you feel when you meet that special person, who touches you so deeply, that no other matters... in the love department, you have been met at the utter depths of your soul...and being. Thats what Gods love and indwelling Spirit is like.

Yes.. I think its time for a verse :)

Philippians 4:7

7And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

COMMENT
If you don't know it..... it means you don't have it. Even when you do have it, you won't fully understand it, So.. perhaps some introspection and reflection is in order ?
Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 16 November 2007 7:09:33 PM
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According to recent articles we're now entering a period of stability rather than flux in sexual norms, values, and practices, and there is general agreement among researchers that the sexual revolution which characterized the 1970s is over. Opinion polls show substantial tolerance of diversity in sexual behaviour, but they also show a continued commitment to marital fidelity and a declining interest in promiscuity.

The epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases may have played a part in this trend, but it also seems that the sexual climate now calls for caring and commitment rather than rebellion and experimentation.

The most important result of the past years of change, perhaps, has been widespread acceptance of newer concepts of sexual morality.

Many people still adhere to the stern rules of earlier generations, and seem not to believe in sexual morality at all. But increasingly, judgements about right and wrong in sexual matters are based on the attitude that moral behaviour is that which involves mutual affection and respect and does no physical or psychological harm to those involved. Of course the real question mark hanging over contemporary sexual attitudes and practices is AIDS.

We are used to associate sex with the most loving, life-giving human impulses. The equation of sex with death is something our culture is utterly unprepared for, and wrenching changes are needed to deal with it.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 16 November 2007 7:49:21 PM
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nonsense. thousands of years of practical experience have demonstrated that a 'master-slave' relationship provides the best sex. that's why moslems have 4 wives and as many concubines as they can afford.

sensible people, moslems. jews and mormons too, when they can escape the strictures of capitalist civilization.

capitalists by comparison achieve the similar results with mistresses, at much greater expense. they have to use 'chains' of gold and diamonds, furs and apartment titles. this poisons their relationship with doubt about who is the slave.

feminists, of course, agree with this analysis. they just disagree about who should be the slave. their current freedom to excel in commerce gives them the power to at least keep a toy-boy or two. but they are not satisfied: they want a stable with supplicant studs in leather straps. i'm available...
Posted by DEMOS, Saturday, 17 November 2007 6:14:49 AM
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Nice one, botheration - but for once I agree with Steven: there's no debate needed, it's self evident.

Many years ago, as an undergraduate student, I used to wear a button that proclaimed proudly "Women on Top!"

In the intervening quarter century, nothing much has changed in that department :)
Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 17 November 2007 7:13:36 AM
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