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Posted by Incoherrant, Monday, 12 November 2007 12:49:58 PM
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incoherrant wrote, 'I'm a moron, so when reading that I get offended & think that counts as legitimate rebuttal. What about you?'
I'm not offended so I can't be a moron. Why are some people so often 'offended' when they come across an ideology different from their own? There are many website of the opposite view out there but I'm not offended. Love of one's country does not mean hatred of others. The assaults on Nationalism are communist-based as the first step to dominating a nation is to destabilise it. As for “…anyone who loves and admires and defends his/her country unquestioningly is an utter fool”, if you substitute 'government' for 'country', I would agree. Posted by Jack the Lad, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 11:22:23 AM
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People get caught up in the 'good vs. evil' divide. Atheists too. It's a simple system for simple minds, as their reasoning can remain the same from when they were watching cartoons as a kid. Pick a team, & hate everything else. Reminds one of liberal democratic politics. Any sensible person will step back & realise that all of the options are utter crap, but nutters get zealous about which useless party they'll be voting for.
If you have left this behind, you should check out nihilism- The American Nihilist Underground Society: www.anus.com The Australian Nihilist Underground Society: www.anus.com/tribes/au Witty acronyms, I know. Seeing past that to consider the ideas = the first test, if you will. Posted by Incoherrant, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14:21 AM
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Inchoerrant... [with the emphasis on errant, I imagine?]
You're touting for nihilism, a negative philosophy espousing an extreme form of scepticism that denies all existence; holds that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. Nihilism rejects all distinctions in moral value and repudiates all previous theories of morality, while believing that destruction of existing political or social institutions is necessary for future improvement. Nihilism scorns authority and tradition and believes in reason, materialism, and radical change in society and government through terrorism and assassination. Yes, sure, that will solve all our problems. Posted by ybgirp, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 11:06:03 AM
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ybgirp, I'm seeing a trend here. You've attacked nationalism for something it is not. Now you've attacked my espousal of nihilism for something that it is not. I posted links for a reason - to educate those who're unsure. You're getting vicious at a straw man. That's a waste of everyone's time. I should add, however, that you haven't argued against that straw man. You've merely expressed sarcasm & hoped that liberal sentiments will win you a debate. Fascinating.
See: http://www.anus.com/zine/nihilism/ http://www.anus.com/zine/philosophy/ http://www.anus.com/zine/articles/ http://www.anus.com/tribes/au/entry/29/Overview Posted by Incoherrant, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 12:47:14 PM
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As is the person who thinks this is what nationalism amounts to. Oh, but you’re not a conformist clone of the liberal regime, are you? Did you even read the article linked at the start of this thread?