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Posted by Incoherrant, Thursday, 8 November 2007 2:20:19 PM
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Incoherrant said:
DYSFUNCTIONAL >>an adult world that is totally dysfunctional, and so they z(teens) often reject it through suicide and/or removal of a few of the most troublesome obstructions they encounter. << This sounds like what Paul was addressing in his letter to the Ephesian Christians: NATURAL HUMAN CONDITION. Eph2:1 "As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful nature and following its desires and thoughts." Then Incoherrant raises the important question: THE QUESTION...... >>While most sources look for treatment, few ask the obvious question: is it possible that depression has an external cause, like our society being ugly and/or heading into Rome-esque failure..."<< ERR..YES. It is not only possible.. it is an on-going fact a work in progress if you will... Since we abandoned the best as well as the worst of the values of the 50s and the connection to our Christian traditions.... we cut the moral anchor rope.. and now we are adrift in the cruel sea of carnality and casual relationships. There can only be one 'end' for us... and it IS Rome-esque. SOLUTION. There is only one. National repentance to Almighty God in and through the humble acceptance of Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord of our lives. To seek other solutions is to try to grab bubbles from the air.. we grasp..and they explode. Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 9 November 2007 7:44:24 AM
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http://www.corrupt.org/act/campaigns/high_school_shootings-our_society_fails_bright_kids
http://www.corrupt.org/articles/politics/brett_stevens/breaking_the_glass_of_denial Woah. Thoughts? Posted by Incoherrant, Friday, 9 November 2007 10:59:05 AM
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BOAZ, I find your rants tedjous and have refrained in the past but- get lost PLEASE.
Next you will suggest we arm H/school kids and so prepare for the second coming? I'll probably never know why these sicko's need involve others, they're needs are beyond me and a civil society. fluff4 Posted by fluff4, Friday, 9 November 2007 11:26:15 AM
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luckily, australian education standard is so poor that the kids don't get clever enough to become so passionate and do things like that.
maybe that's what Bob Hawke meant by "we must become the clever Country" and the idea of personal freedom means anyone can be as listless and useless as they choose as long as taxpayer funding continues. ah yeah, and Ruddie wants to throw in a laptop for every kiddie that shows no promise and mommie's on a supporting mother's pension. Posted by individual, Friday, 9 November 2007 11:51:57 AM
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"Yet another teenager today tried to awaken a numb world with the sacrifice of himself and several other students..."
What a guy! Before I just send you off to watch the most recent Saw movies because they always offer some excuse for the sick and twisted perversity of the main character I see that in your own way you might be onto something. I believe there is a truth in there in that things have got pretty screwy recently. Guns are banned so that people don't open fire randomly but there have been guns for many centuries and people didn't open fire in their classrooms or do the other strange things until toward to the end of the last century. And it doesn't stop the news reports of the disadvantaged being set on fire for entertainment or women getting raped and urinated on. Something more is involved. People aren't just catching depression the world is depressing and the news focusses on the most depressing news feeding and developing an appetite for the same. Helping keep things together, and in some cases cause improvement, have been technology and governmental structures reaching new heights and a handful of influential good people like Martin Luther King but this only camoflages a sickness about our general society that parallels the decadent Romans. Even the basic family unit is under increasing threat with massive increases in divorces over the decades. Kids often start off in broken homes (where boys get the depressing to them message that a father is redundant) and look forward to "global pollution, climate change, political instability, ghettoes, a culture dominated by moronic television and music, constant ethnic strife, and so on. The list goes on.". Meanwhile the pimple faced brats of the 60s who thought they new better than millenia of genius and common folk alike keep flogging a dead horse claiming more of their political correctness and other nonsense will solve the problem. Posted by mjpb, Friday, 9 November 2007 12:41:14 PM
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Yet another teenager today tried to awaken a numb world with the sacrifice of himself and several other students, this time in southern Finland for that country's first school shooting1. He opened fire at his high school, killing eight people and wounding ten, before police surrounded the building and presumably took him out.
You are expected to stand there open-mouthed and wonder aloud, "But how could anybody do this? Why would they do this?" but this feeble cover is really no longer anything but transparent. We know why they do it: teenagers are the people who have not yet inherited an adult world that is totally dysfunctional, and so they often reject it through suicide and/or removal of a few of the most troublesome obstructions they encounter.
When Pekka-Eric Auvinen shot up his high school, he was sending a message with his self-sacrifice. It's a message that adults should heed, since ignoring problems has gotten us global pollution, climate change, political instability, ghettoes, a culture dominated by moronic television and music, constant ethnic strife, and so on. The list goes on. It's no wonder teenagers don't want to join your world that by virtue of its insistence on obliviousness produces completely retarded results consistently.
The teenager had warned that he was discontent with an adult world, and was recommended anti-depressants by a disinterested YouTube moderator2, despite the lack of conclusive proof that anti-depressants stop the cause of depression, which has been increasing in the modern time and is the leading cause of disability in industrialized nations3. While most sources look for treatment, few ask the obvious question: is it possible that depression has an external cause, like our society being ugly and/or heading into Rome-esque failure..."
http://www.anus.com/zine/articles/jokela/