Pale take a breath and think before you react.
Read my post think about it then respond!
Gate crashing do you understand how rude that term is? that in posting you invite us to respond?
Pale do you see in my posts an effort to talk to you?
Remember how I swore I NEVER WOULD?
My efforts to bury the past, ignore your one tracked my way or the highway style is clear.
In that other thread you seemed to thank me for my early inputs, until I spoke my own beliefs.
Here now I again say we must never except children must suffer because we fail to act.
Sometimes radical ideas impact on things the public should be up in arms for.
My clear proud union background and ALP center unity base does not change the view heads must role ALP heads too DOCS can not be trusted with this country's children.
Those children are more important than horses to me.

Belly
The pot who calls the kettle black. You went beserk when you thought we changed the subject on the Rudd and china thread regarding trade.
You couldnt see the connection between Live Exports and China.
In fact you wrote two posts on it- saying What has china got to do with live exports! Blimey How dumb is that. Where do you THINK they send these LIVE Animals to? The moon?
In return we have pointed out DOCS has stuff all to do with shooting ten thousand horses and leaving them to die.
Personally I care about both.
However as i pointed out you didnt want to repond to our comments on the Docs thread we left so why gate crash the animal welfare thread.
Oh I forgot- Your a union bully- thats what you guys do isnt it
gate crash

WELL IM NOT GATE CRASHING .IM TELLING THE TRUTH THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERMENT IS TO BLAME FOR WHAT HAPPEND TO US FORGOTTEN AUSTRALIANS WE ARE THE VICTIMS OF CLID ABUSE RAPES AND MORE SICKERNING THINGS YOU COULD IMAGINE, D.O.C.S,IS THE AUSTRALIAN WELFARE AGENCIE THAT RUNS ALL INSTITUTIONS FOR THE STATES OF AUSTRALIA NOW IN THE RECENT WELL THEIR HAVE BEEN 3 DEATHS AND NURMOURS CHILDREN PLACED IN HOSPITAL, THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERMENT IS RESPONSABLE FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY AS THEY WERE WHEN WE WERE CHILDREN THAT WERE BEEN RAPED AND SODIMISSED BY PEDOPHILES WHO WORKED FOR THE GOVERMENT OF AUSTRALIA ,THE AUSTRAIN GOVERMENT HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR TO MANY YEARS NOW IN SWEEPING ALL THESE ABUSE UNDER THE CARPET AND IT IS PEOPLE LIKE ME AND MANY OTHERS THAT WANT TO BRING THIS GOVERMANT OF AUSTRALA ACOUNTABLE FOR ALL THE WRONGS THEY PLACED US THROUGH , AS I SAID BEFORE IN MY POST THIS IS REAL AND TRUE , AND I SPEAK FOR THE FORGOTTEN AUSTRALIANS BUT WE WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN NO LONGER ,AND I FEEL SORRY FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW BECOMING NEW FGORGOTTEN AUSTRALIANS D.O.C.S AND BOTH LIBERAL AND LABOUR ARE RESPONABLE FOR WHAT HAPPEND TO US ALL AS THEIR WAS DIFFRENT LEADERS AT DIFFRENT TIMES THOUGH IT DID NOT STOP THE RAPES AND ABUSE , SAY SORRY MR HOWARD OR MR RUDD, AND BELLY IM IN CAPITALS SO THAT EVERY BODY KNOWS OF US FORGOTTEN AUSTRALIANS ALSO SO THE GOVERMENT AND THE PUBLISC NOW THAT WE ARE NOT BACKING DONE AND IF CAPITALS MEAN YELLING IN COMPUTOR TERMS WELL IM YELLING AT OUR GOVERMENT OF AUSTRALIA WE ARE THE FORGOTTEN AUSTRALIANS AND WANT THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERMENT TO ACT ON THE TRUTH ABOUT US VICTIMS OF TODAYS ABUSES AND THAT OF YEARS GONE BY ABUSES THAT THE COVERMENT OF AUSTRALIA HAS BEEN COVERING UP,ALSO I HAVE WROTE EMAILS TO EVERY POLITICIAN IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS EVEN THE GOVERNER GENERAL NO HELP THEIR PRIME MINISTER HOWARD NO HELP THEIR MR RUDD NO HELP THEIR D.O.C.S NO HELP THEIR REGARDS MICHEAL FORGOTTEN AUSTRALIAN BUT WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN

pale that is it never again will I talk to you on any subject no balance no manners no idea , rude uninformed my view of you based on your posts.
I did try, I aways do, to restart our talks it is not possible.
huffnpuff take a breath, gate crashing is not possible in an open forum you do not gate crash nore do I but think about the posting in caps friend.
Most forums will not let you do it.
Most posters will not read it.
I, knowing your hurt, wanting to help only read it at a glance at first, then made myself read it.
Your pain is there for the world to see, friend people such as you, hurt by this shonky system ,life's ruined, are often playing into the hands of governments wanting it to go away.
They just say look he/she is out of control, sad as it looks the fact is people shut themselves of from such dreadful things as this.
And yes it falls to governments all of them to bring those who offend against children to justice, sometimes too often it is those governments who by lack of action are as guilty as any one.
Accountability from all involved is a must.

Some who read this thread may know just how much some have suffered I can never get it out of my mind the dreadful things that have happened to many such as huffnpuff.
I know the more letters you write to politicians on such a subject the more unlikely they are to listen.
But some place out there some one knows who will hear the story and maybe a light can be shone on it.
Any ideas
Pale last communication between us, A LIE the statement I went berserk is just totally only that.

hi to all the forgotten australians and now to the new forgotten australians that our goverment of australia is covering up, we will no longer remain silenced by the goverment of australia , everybody out their should put their comment in the petition the dail telegraph is doing as to try and get a royal commission running the goverment of australia is responsable for their welfare agencies and thoses institutions where a lot of abuse and rapes took part by the staff the goverment employed in these institutions we will never stop the fight for justice and the public should be on side with us through this as if something ever happens to one of your own you to will know what we all have been suffering due to the goverment of australia not admitting the truth as to what happend to us victims i am a victim of the forgotten australians and i will not be forgotten as of all of the other victims of the forgotten australians they shall not be forgotten either we are not going away ,D.O.C.S. are responsable the austrlian goverment is responable as they are in control of D.O.C.S as they were in control when we victims were raped and molested by the staff the goverment of australia employed in all state run institutions ophanages and all other institutions we were to be cared for not to be raped as punishment , hay girl frank bernie belly joanna graig put your imput in the petition the daily telegraph is running everyone in this national forum should be respoding to it as it cost nothing and you can read what everyone has said ,and the goverment has to tell the truth and stop sweeping the forgotten australians and the public under the carpet we are victims that will not go away regards micheal