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Why Austraila does not accept Declaration of Human Right

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Hi, I am a university student and have a question as for Human Right.
Why Australia does not accept the Declaration of Human Right while most of the industrialised countries do accept this?
I am very curious about it.
If anybody know, please tell me why and if there is any website explaining why, let me know as well.

Thank you,
KUMA
Posted by kuma, Friday, 2 November 2007 3:27:22 PM
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It is because all dictators in earthlings history need many sociopaths as bureaucrats to carry out the will of the rightful leader.
Thou thinks ye protests to much about the right to have any rights.
Do as we say not as we do.
I for one can not see why anybody could think that our decisions against anyone is not in our best interests.
If any earthling was given a real choice it may not be in our real interests. So no rights will be given as you may not make the one we want.
YOURS SINCERELY (insert leader here)
PS For privacy reasons we have placed this on your personal file.
Posted by insignificant, Sunday, 4 November 2007 2:46:58 AM
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Hi there Kuma

well.. the simple fact is.. the declaration is, in the words of

Jeane Kirkpatrick, U.S. Ambassador to the UN, .... called the Declaration "a letter to Santa Claus".

POINT 1. Such declarations are always USED maliciously by politically marginal people and parties to extend their own sectarian agenda.
(Bob_Brown/Marilyn_Shepherd-leftoids_in_general)

POINT 2. It is a non workable wish list dreamt up in fantasyland.

Take 'Article 2' for example.

>>Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion,<<

To which I and any other sane person will respond "ABSOLUTE RUBBISH"

The above is a prescription for ANARCHY if political opinions don't matter.. including those of a party which would DENY the freedom to even TALK against the values that party espouses...then what is the point of having 'human rights' ? They would dissappear as soon as that particular party rose to power. One such example is Malaysia. They used to have (and probably still do) the "FIVE SENSITIVE ISSUES"
where, if you even DISCUSSED them with other people.. you could be jailed without trial, indefinitely, under the internal security act.
Those sensitive issues include:

1/ The privileged position of Malays in Malaysia
2/ The State religion being Islam.

What about ARTICLE 3 ?

>>Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.<<

err... NO they don't..not in the slightest. Law abiding people do, but lawbreakers do NOT !

POINT 3. Non recognition by Islamic countries. If you do some searches and look up Islamic criticism of the declaration, you will discover that they feel the implementation of Islamic law gives MORE human rights. I guess the lopping off of handswhich steal and slicing and dicing of peoples heads, and stoning people to death, is included in their more generous version of human rights eh ?

POINT 4. Our Judao Christian heritage gives human rights anyway. "Do for others as you would have them do for you"
Posted by BOAZ_David, Sunday, 4 November 2007 6:44:40 AM
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it's like this, mate(pay close attention as i will only say this once):

there are no rights independent of power. 'right' is the polite face of power.

but people without rights try to get them, by measuring their strength against those who do have power. they usually do this by gathering the support of many people, in the hope that many weak people can extract concessions from the powerful. this often works, and a new balance of power results, generating a corresponding new network of power relationships.

this is particularly evident in the general assembly of the united nations. this group, and most of it's members, is inconsequential both economically and militarily. so they talk about 'human rights', trying to create an appearance of power by sweeping all the powerless into their tent. the big powers are not fooled, and commonly ignore this activity.

australia feels securely bonded to america, and so does not identify with the small nations. it walks along one step behind the american military machine with chest puffed out, a member(associate) of the 'imperial' club.
Posted by DEMOS, Sunday, 4 November 2007 9:11:07 AM
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I totally echo Demos' thoughts and have said it myself umpteen thousand times..

NO POWER=NO RIGHTS. 'RIGHTS' anyway are an illusion. There is only ONE 'thing' that people have.. "privileges" which are granted by POWER.

As Demos says.. 'human rights' are being championed by the powerLESS...and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see HOW and WHY they use that tack.

"Our political views are not top dog....lets whine about human rights to advance our political/social agenda"

Not only are 'big nations' not fooled.. I'M not fooled, neither is DEMOS and I suspect a number of other posters are also not fooled by this 'fools paradise' called Human Rights.

The only genuine 'right' is that granted by the Almighty. If you wish to explore it.. read the book of Deuteronomy. The covenant between God and Israel involved 'responsibilities and rights'... blessings and curses... If they obeyed the covenant...they had the right to expect certain things from God.. because God told them this.

POWER without conscience is horrific. CONSCIENCE without Power is useless.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Sunday, 4 November 2007 12:38:55 PM
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Dear Kuma,

Australia is the only developed country on a World Health Organisation
'shame list' of countries where children are still blinded by tracoma.
Impoverished Sri Lanka has beaten the disease but not rich Australia.
according to the Director of the Centre for Eye Research in Sydney, Professor Hugh Taylor, up to 80% of Aboriginal children have potentially blinding trachoma because of untreated cataracts. "This is inexcusable," he said.

And that's only the tip of the iceberg - as far as Aboriginal health is concerned. (There are United Nations reports that are very damning concerning Aboriginal health).

Then there's the way the government treats its asylum seekers.
Australians caught a glimpse of these horrors perpetrated in their name when an Australian Broadcasting Corporation programme told the story of a six year old Iranian boy. Having spent a quarter of his life behind the wire of Woomera camp in the South Australian desert, he had seen desperate adults set themselves on fire and watched a suicidal man slash himself. "I think he is dead," he told his father, who said these were the last he uttered. Silent and depressed, he refused food and drink and sat day after day, drawing pictures of razor wire.

Signing a Human Rights Act would force the government to be accountable for its actions.

However, you may be intersted in looking at the following website:
www.humanrightsact.com.au
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 4 November 2007 1:23:35 PM
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