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"Sorry, but coal was presumed by everybody to have years of reserves.
The German Energy Watch group found that there had been no review for
40 years I think it was. That was recently confirmed.
Oil depletion may well have already started.

This is absurd. Because the German government didn't find any reviews it means we are running out? It means there is no need for a review. This is a rediculous theory that is completely lacking in any evidence. In fact you even admitted it is an assumption based on lack of evidence. We are not going to run out of coal in a timeframe relevant to the climate debate.
Posted by freediver, Monday, 5 November 2007 9:43:29 PM
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Freediver;
I think you misunderstood. The Energy Watch Group, when they found that
there had not been a survey of coal for many years then did one and
found that world peak coal will occur around 2030 to 2035.

Just go and read it.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 6:47:03 AM
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2030 to 2050? That is far fetched. Even if it werte true, it is still irrelevant from a climate change perspective. Under a peak coal scenario, emissions would continue to climb until 2050. Climate change scientists want emissions reduced by soimething like 50% by then. They want to impose peak coal right now.
Posted by freediver, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 1:46:38 PM
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Also, check the assumptions on that report. You will probably find that are stupid. For example, they are probably based on known reserves, which means an assumption that people will not start looking for more coal as known reserves run out.
Posted by freediver, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 1:47:59 PM
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Freediver,
Here is the report, read it first.
You will find their latest report on when peak oil occured on the
same site.

http://www.energywatchgroup.org/files/Coalreport.pdf
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 4:02:12 PM
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That site doesn't work. Let me guess, you found a 'report' on some two bit website that sounded official so you believed it, without checking the assumptions. Can you tell me what the assumptions are? I'm not going to read through pages of gibberish to find out what I already know.
Posted by freediver, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 4:57:23 PM
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