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Not one Conservative Government in Australia?

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No not one that is the far more than likely result of this election.
I have a feeling some here in our forum are more intent on troubling me about my words than asking why?
WHY?
Every state and the federal government in Labor hands.
The problem is not the voters, not Labor deceiving the people.
Some of us, ALP members understand we are not governing well in some states, mine for one.
But can Conservatives understand so many of your true believers voted for the best of two bad choices? Labor?
As Labor in some cases is doing such a dreadful job, no contest, why can conservatives not turn it around?
Lord Mayor of some city, at best the highest office in Australia they will hold and no debate WHY?
After this for a century worst ever result history will remember it as a turning point.
Kevin Rudd will not wast his chance to wipe out the memory of high interest rates, he will restore the ALP brand name.
IF Conservatives can learn from Labors lost years, from our flogging in 2004 a better stronger movement will come.
Like ripe plums states are waiting to fall ,but not to the party that has lost contact with its Liberal birth place.
Consider todays front bench in Canberra is it not clear Sir Robert Menzies parliamentary Accountability is dead?
Conservatives must consider a leader not tainted by this impending defeat to start rebuilding.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 2 November 2007 6:36:34 AM
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You seem to be implying that the ALP goverments in power now, and the one that is likely to be power federally come Nov 24 are not conservative. I'd like to see some evidence of that.
For a start, name one clearly progressive action or policy promise by a Labor government in recent years.
Posted by wizofaus, Friday, 2 November 2007 12:08:33 PM
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name a few you'd like to see, wiz.

parties are in the 'ruling' business, not the service, not the idealistic, not the good management business.

if they could, they'd do nothing at all. but they justify their pay and perks by 'ruling'. actually, the public service drives the bus while the pollies collect the money and dole out the best seats to their mates. the 'ruling' business comes down to shifting rheostats up or down, turning taps on or off, just a bit.

of course, like the owners of any sheep station, they try to keep the flock healthy and productive. but only as it serves their own purposes, individual sheep who fall out of the mob won't get any care. expecting progressive policies from this type of person is misplaced hope.

not one? 7 going on 8, rather.
Posted by DEMOS, Friday, 2 November 2007 12:37:35 PM
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The real problem for Australia, Belly, is that there in not one conservative government in Australia, and there never has been.

The so-called conservative Coalition is no such thing. It's current promises to hand out big dollars to regain government is socialism, pure and simple. John Howard is a wet mess, who should have handed over the leadership two years ago.

What Australia needs is something like the Australia First Party, but they don't seem to be interested any more. Perhaps they, too, have been convinced by the media-backed polls/propaganda claiming that the federal election is a done deal for the ALP -which it might be, gawd help us all.
Posted by Leigh, Friday, 2 November 2007 2:10:51 PM
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I wish I could share the rain falling here with every inch of Australia.
And I wish we could debate this subject with understanding Australia first? idiotic to think we would ever vote in numbers that mob even into the house.
Now I am implying Labor is already in power?
Want to bet they will not be?
My prediction is 24 to 26 seats, a majority of 8 to 10 what is yours?
The polls have not lurched much from day one of Rudd's leadership, dreadful lies and fear are in store for us in the next three weeks.
Australia rejects that tactic.
DEMOS please! are you that sure only you have the answers? that the electorate is stupid?
can you explain why they do not think like you?
Hide your heads under the blanket but just as this storm is here Rudd is soon to be too.
Australia needs an opposition that ask how did we go wrong?
2 party's stand in the end oh plus the dieing nationals one will lead one must reform and reenter the race or this country suffers.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 2 November 2007 2:37:33 PM
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Howard's government has had its day. The polls know it, the people know it and even Howard's senior colleagues know it but can't muster the will to tap him more strongly on the shoulder... I guess it's too late now.

When he tries to tell voters he is excited about staying in politics -
(but only for a year or two - ) Howard sounds unconvincing.
Then he hopes those same voters will be 'kind enough' to re-elect him.
He comes across as a frail man pleading for another win just for the record books.

He is a man who didn't know when to go - and it's going to cost him the election.

Why should we trust a man who has lied to us over all these years?
The children overboard affair. The AWB - debacle. Our invasion of
Iraq. His unwillingness to ratify Kyoto. His unfair Workchoices laws and AWAs... his contemptuous disregard for the Aboriginal people of this country.

If his own party's elders speak out against him (Fraser and Hewson),
and don't trust him, why should we?
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 2 November 2007 5:58:24 PM
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