Posted by BOAZ_David

"IF.....the 'refugee' planted next to you had a view that 'old men having sex with children' is NOT...paedophilia but rather.. QUITE acceptable... would you feel as comfy?."

Put that in another thread and I'll answer it.

You, again;

"Stg's point was about the silliness of a legal system which allows paedophiles out....but really he must be reacting to an unusual case no ? I've not heard much of this kind of thing going on."

What do YOU think happens to paedophiles after the serve their sentences?.

“So you'd prefer a convicted paedophile living in your neighbourhood than a few refugees?”

CJ, you obviously completely misunderstand me, although I thought I put it clearly enough.

I’d prefer to have a refugee (or fifty refugees) living next door to me rather than a paedophile any day.

Yes paedophiles deserved to be loathed. No refugees don’t deserve any social antipathy.

But the potential scale of a national refugee / asylum seeker influx could cause untold greater social upheaval than a ten-fold increase in paedophilia, with all of them being released in the community with a slap on the hand.

Posted by Ludwig

"As for paedophiles, I don’t believe that they should just be locked up indefinitely, unless they have committed repeat offences and/or demonstrated no or poor rehabilitation."

I have a certain amount of belief in our judicial system. I just believe that judges and the judicial support can be slightly detached from reality. I think there needs to be a massive overhaul of sentencing and consequences for an individual's actions. How many kids need to be spiritually destroyed by one individual before we say they can't play well with others?. Some people are SO deficient and detached from what we consider acceptable social behaviour that maybe we should consider another option...

Everyone makes mistakes, and screws up (talking about the WHOLE scheme of things), but when does it cross from an error in judgement to habitual?. Being caught once or twice or or TEN times?. Our society has no official avenue of recourse against these individuals. They just get released and ostracised over and over. It's a self perpetuating cycle.

At some point they need to be removed from our society after proving they can't co-exist with the rest of us.

I fully agree StG.

STG,
I fail to see how a sensible,decent, moral etc. human being could possibly disagree with your last comment. Why do so many always use isolated cases as an example for problems which affect the whole of society. A paedophile IS NOT A NORMAL HUMAN BEING & therefore should not receive the amount of benefit of the doubt they're getting. Authorities spend endless sums of money on those creeps whereas a decent member of society has to mortgage their home in order to clear their name after being falsely accused of whatever. Re refugees, of course there are genuine refugees but how does one establish which one is genuine & which one is not. As to your original question I'd like to say that no-one should have to live next door to a paedophile because those sickos shouldn't be anywhere outside jail or better not around at all. Why don't we let victims & parents of victims decide what's to be done with a proven paedophile. However, when someone is deliberately falsely accused then that individual should get much, much more support then what they get now.

Ludwig: "But the potential scale of a national refugee / asylum seeker influx could cause untold greater social upheaval than a ten-fold increase in paedophilia, with all of them being released in the community with a slap on the hand"

Thanks for your clarification. However, while I agree with limiting absolute numbers of immigrants to Australia on environmental grounds, I advocate increasing the proportion of refugees among those who we do allow to migrate to Australia. That is, reduce net immigration, but increase the number of refugees relative to economic immigrants. I fail to see how such a strategy can cause any kind of "social upheaval".

On the other hand, I'm quite sure that any government that began releasing paedophiles into the community with a perceived "slap on the hand" would very quickly find itself the object of substantial social protest.