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Conflict in the Middle East

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Just a couple of things:

.The Mad Mullahs don't care what happens to Iran as long as they remain in charge, which they do and always will. If Iranians themselves had really wanted to get rid of them (they've had half a century to do so) they would have at least tried to do it by now.

. The U.S/Trump lost when they broke to Golden Rule, never-negotiate-with-terrorists.

Even those of us who think highly of President Trump know that he has stuffed up big time on this one. He is now lashing out at Israel, a country that knows he to fight a war, and whose experience has taught it that you must kill radical Islamists, not chat to them.

Apart from all that, Iran has been a lost cause ever since Jimmy Carter's meddling.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 11:00:22 AM
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What a dismal situation.
The only way to deal with religious terrorists is a
no compromise order to them to disarm and make sure
that uranium is never available to them.
Power reactors must be managed by a suitable powerful
organisation. Fuel pellets manufactured and accounted
for their reactors. Swap depleted pellets for pellets.

They have to be treated differently because their
religion says if they die in a retaliatory strike
they will be in paradise immediately !
So nuclear war is to be welcomed.
No counter argument possible.
Posted by Bezza, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 11:26:55 AM
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"The U.S/Trump lost when they broke to Golden Rule, never-negotiate-with-terrorists."
- They don't have a choice except to negotiate, they lost the war.

But the U.S. won't make a deal in good faith and the Iranians are onto it.
They're all about the commitment to the commitment.
They're not going to be screwed over like Russia on the Minsk deal.
They want a committee of oversight to maintain the deal.
Trumps not going to be able to sell victory.

And if Trump don't play, Iran will say look sorry we're busy right now, come back and see us in September, with the Strait closed.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 7:16:59 PM
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"The only way to deal with religious terrorists is a
no compromise order to them to disarm and make sure
that uranium is never available to them."

They could just make more if they were serious about doing so.
They're not religious terrorists, it's more of a military dictatorship.
And are you willing to conscript half a million Americans to fight them in a ground war, for another WMD lie?
When Iran can just blow the shite out of everything with conventional weapons anyway?
Obviously, they will destroy all gulf oil and gas infrastructure, so where are we then?

They're not going to give up their right to enrich uranium now.
They're a signatory to the NPT and have a right to enrich for civilian purposes.
This whole thing has been a Netanyahu and western engineered screw up since day 1.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 23 June 2026 11:01:40 PM
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Hi AC,

No surprise that a country that clandestinely developed nuclear weapons, Israel, and another that was the first to develop and use them the United States, should be so against other ratbag nations like Iran from also developing their own nuclear weapons. Dose anyone seriously believe the world is a safer place because countries like Pakistan and India have these weapons of annihilation, hardly! I am totally in favour of disarmament, and that includes Australia disarming.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 24 June 2026 4:46:27 AM
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These people are morons.

http://theconversation.com/iran-just-outlasted-the-worlds-most-powerful-military-what-can-australia-learn-from-its-strategies-284443

"Think of Iran using drones and mines to keep US ships out of the Persian Gulf and making it harder for US forces to raid Iran’s oil terminal at Kharg Island.

For Australia, this means continuing to demonstrate the ability to prevent an enemy from achieving its goals after war breaks out. This can be hugely valuable if it stops the enemy from using certain weapons or taking specific actions against us."

'Putting up a good fight and getting twice as many Aussies killed while fighting a superior adversary and are going to lose anyway' is not a strategy.

That's a 'sacrifice the plebs and buy the elites time' strategy.

I've got a new war strategy.
Politicians and political donors kids are immediately conscripted on Day 1 of any international conflict, and they must not be placed where they are protected.

This ensures the rich and wealthy or those with financial interests in war wont take us there for any stupid reasons.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 25 June 2026 6:21:08 AM
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