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Australia's Activist Judges

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GoogleAI-

Q- Hitler would say that he was socialist without being marxist
A- You’re exactly right. Hitler
frequently made that distinction to redefine "socialism" in a way that served his nationalist and racial goals while distancing himself from the class-based, internationalist ideology of Karl Marx.
In a famous 1923 interview with George Sylvester Viereck, Hitler stated: "Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists."
How Hitler Defined His "Socialism"
Hitler’s version of socialism was built on several points that explicitly rejected Marxist principles:

Race over Class: Marx saw history as a struggle between classes (bourgeoisie vs. proletariat). Hitler replaced this with a struggle between races, arguing that "state and race are one."
Protection of Private Property: While Marxism calls for the abolition of private property, Hitler explicitly stated that his socialism "does not repudiate private property". He believed private ownership was essential for fostering "personality" and individual initiative, provided it served the national interest.
Nationalism over Internationalism: Marxism is inherently internationalist ("Workers of the world, unite!"). Hitler’s "National Socialism" was strictly for the German people, intended to build a racially pure "people’s community" (Volksgemeinschaft).
Ancient Germanic Roots: He claimed socialism was an "ancient Aryan, Germanic institution" and that his party was simply reviving the common-weal traditions of German ancestors rather than following a "Jewish" doctrine like Marxism.
Posted by Canem Malum, Friday, 24 April 2026 8:03:47 PM
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Hi Kudos Kid,

Can't keep a good Fascists down, can we. Now you are channelling the thoughts of the demented lunatic Hitler. What is relevant is the way the so called Populism runs parallel to Fascism. I don't say that all Populists are Fascists, but I do say all Fascists are Populists.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 24 April 2026 9:11:00 PM
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Democracy comes in many shapes and sizes.

In America it doesn't even matter how the people vote.
It's the electoral college vote that decides.

Maybe it's time we simulated a 'perfect democracy'.
Instead of all these different versions, we should refine and foolproof one single version.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 25 April 2026 9:32:11 AM
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Paul1405 said- "Now you are channelling the thoughts of the demented lunatic Hitler." (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=10772#375485)

But earlier Paul1405 said- "Hi Trumpster, Don't you remember Uncle Adolf, he's only been gone about 80 years. Maybe you were just a little tyke when uncle would pop on over, and bounce you on his knee. The notion that the Nazi's were socialists, because they had the word Socialist in their name has been debunked a million times. Read what I said about Populism and Fascism, and read the posts of one of the "common people" and you will see the parallels." (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=10772#375485)

Answer- So it appears that Paul1405 was the one that brought up "Hitler" then claimed "channelling Hitler", when we use AI to respond to his comment. This seemingly makes Paul1405 sound cowardly. But maybe I'm missing something. I expect Paul1405 will double down on perversion.

Also I don't think Hitler considered himself a 'Fascist'. When using terms such as 'Fascist' or any other term it's important to demarcate the definition. What makes 'Fascism' different than other forms of government, is this doctrine or typical practice of Fascism.

Paul1405 seems to be against Fascism, but doesn't seem to define his terms, this sounds more like propaganda than information. Maybe his understanding is greater than mine- but from the research I've done Fascist principles include 1. an armed population, and 2. respect for the natural hierarchical structures of society such as family, local community, state, nation. Maybe something in Italian Fascism via Il Duce, can be defined that highlights Paul1405's issue, but I can't claim to have read anything about him. (Paul1405 has mentioned Il Duce in the past.)

There are other ideologies such as Marxism that don't support 1 and 2 above. Is Paul1405 a Marxist?- he says he isn't, but he seems to keep supporting Marxist principles.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 25 April 2026 12:22:42 PM
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Posted by Armchair Critic
"Maybe it's time we simulated a 'perfect democracy'.
Instead of all these different versions, we should refine and foolproof one single version."

Answer- According to some, democracy is mathematically impossible. Democracy also relies on an educated population to act in their own interest. Democracy is similar to 'the efficient market hypothesis' that Joseph Stiglitz disproved and won the Nobel Prize for Economics
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 25 April 2026 12:28:05 PM
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Hi Kudos Kid,

"Also I (KK) don't think Hitler considered himself a Fascist". How would you know, more likely Hitler considered himself a "good bloke". You claim I am a Marxists, do you consider yourself a Fascist? I fail to see a whole lot of difference between Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia. It reinforces my belief in the 'Horseshoe Theory' of politics, more they try to differ, the more they become alike.

"Paul1405 seems to be against Fascism" I'm against subjugation and control through violence, I'm not so sure about YOU.

A QUESTION TO ALL.

Just as a side; At several ANZAC services around Australia this morning, small but vocal groups booed and jeered the Aboriginal person as they delivered the "Welcome To Country". Fortunately the vast majority of the crowd cheered and applauded to show their displeasure at the disgusting behaviour of a few thugs in attendance.
I don't know if YOU, or any other Forum Populists were at any of these services, but if you had been, would YOU be a BOOER or a CHEERER? I certainly would be a CHEERER. Third option is STICK YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH, as part of the "Silent Majority".
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 25 April 2026 4:57:22 PM
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