"YOU wouldn't have a clue. "

Well you see Paul. I read history. (You should try it some time). I know they wouldn't have used the bomb on Russia or anyone other than Japan, even when there was no deterrent because they DIDN'T. The fact that they didn't seems rather conclusive although in your fantasy world, mere facts are just a hindrance to what you want to be true.

On the A-Bomb:

1. Dropping the bomb meant that the projected 500,000 US lives lost due to invasion weren't lost; the projected 2million Japanese deaths due to invasion weren't lost; the 10000 deaths per day in Japan's Asian camps were saved; the 5,000 deaths per day in China and elsewhere due to famine weren't lost. The bomb bought the suffering to a rapid end.

2. The second bomb was dropped because the Japanese weren't planning on surrendering after the first. The US had broken the Japanese codes and were privy to the internal Japanese government discussions. They knew that the Japanese scientists were saying that it was unlikely that the US would have a second bomb for several months and they knew that the Japanese army was planning on fighting on. the second bomb changed all that.

You learn all that when you read history.

"BTW, How is your claimed great peacemaker (what a joke) Trump doing as he and his cronies are profiteering from the stock market with their insider trading, they made $400 million in a couple of hours."

I saw that, I was thinking Jared Kushner.
But it may have been the Trump family.
Gotta profit off the wars you start, right?
Who knows.

Apparently the whole Trump administration are all about profit.

Trumpster,

Reading American propaganda, is not history. How are PROJECTIONS history? What a load of rubbish. You can't murder 250,000 innocent people, and then claim you saved lives. RUBBISH! No lives were saved, 250,000 were taken!
As we know, Americans killed in wars are overwhelmingly considered trailer-trash types in their own country, blacks Hispanics and poor whites, totally worthless to people like Trump! He said so.

Regime change might appear drastic, but sometimes it is necessary.
The control exercised by Iranian leaders has a negative effect on the people there, and also on the world.
So, unless there is regime change in Iran, it can only get worse.
Without regime change, I see no point to the current 'war'.
However much you grind them down, the regime will regroup and rebuild if any of them are still able to.
Remnants must be replaced with a more democratic system.
This change is necessary.
But Trump seems to be failing?

I think all religions are aimed at having control and obtaining money.
This is not all bad.
Long ago, control of the restless rabble was a good thing.
Peace amongst the troups is definitely desirable.
However, religion is based on an artificial set of standards.
These were dreamt up long ago, when there was only a need to impress illiterate persons.
And it is convenient for these standards to be considered ageless.
It gives constancy to them.
But the truth is that the standards are as faulty now as they were when they began.
No thinking person will take them seriously.

The first rule for living in a democracy is not to harm another member of the group.
Only those authorised to deal with problems should do so.
You can defend yourself and others if harm is significant and immediate, but that is all.
Otherwise, no taking the law in to your own hands.
When you have legitimate concerns, these must be relayed to a proper authority.
And the only reason for war is the need for the immediate defence of a group.
The unwarranted and vicious harming of non-combatants is beyond contempt.

You can't murder 250,000 innocent people, and then claim you saved lives."

You can if you understand the history. But we are talking to Paul so alas....

"they made $400 million in a couple of hours."

Evidence? Sorry to use a term you don't understand. Here, I'll help... http://tiny.cc/nbx0101

"Regime change might appear drastic,"

Not when you're talking about a regime that was prepared to kill up to 50,000 of its own people over a weekend in order to retain its privileges. For most of us it seems that removing such a regime would be highly beneficial to the Iranians, the region in general and the furtherance of human development. Of course, there are those who support the authoritarian regimes and for them, overthrowing that regime would be considered to be a tragedy.

Whether the regime will be overthrown is very much in the hands of the Iranian people themselves. The US/Israel have set , or are setting, the conditions to allow the overthrow but its up to the people to take their future into their own hands. At the moment the US is advising the people to remain indoors while the USAF/IAF complete their annihilation of the IRGC's infrastructure. But once that's done, they will tell the people to rise up if they have the will and then we'll see what happens

They're already saying additional wars against Iran will be required.

Expectations lower in face of Iran resistance
http://thejewishindependent.com.au/us-israeli-war-iran-analysis
'Despite massive damage to Iran’s military capabilities, doubts emerge over whether Netanyahu and Trump will be able to claim victory in the face of the regime’s survival.'

>>On the first day of the US-Israeli war against Iran, with the assassination of Iranian supreme leader Ali Khamenei, the collapse of the Iranian regime seemed to Israel to be an attainable goal.

With some encouragement and a lot of firepower, the crowds would turn out and topple their oppressors, it was hoped.

A week and a half later, no protests against the regime have surfaced despite parts of Iran being pulverised. What has actually collapsed, instead, is the idea that the regime will collapse during this war. At the same time, doubts are emerging over whether Israel will be able to claim victory in the face of the regime’s survival....<<

>>Meanwhile, the notion that the war will permanently disable Iran’s military and missile capabilities is also in question, especially given the fact that Donald Trump can halt the war at any time he sees fit. Indeed, some analysts are now openly saying that additional wars with Iran will be necessary to suppress a threat of Iran rebuilding its capabilities.<<

You read this stuff and you get a feel for how they see things.

This Grace Tame one was interesting too.

Why Grace Tame should be allowed to speak at Melbourne Writers Festival
http://thejewishindependent.com.au/grace-tame-melbourne-writers-festival

If you stand back and see the bigger picture, it's that these are a people at constant war with the whole entire world around them and determined to march directly into constant conflict.
They are a nation at war with other peoples valid opinions.

It's not that they don't want to cancel her, but in this instance they think the repercussions would be worse.