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"If bias exists but doesn't alter outcomes in a predictable way"

Well you need to show that it isn't predictable.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 1 March 2026 12:40:54 PM
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mhaze,

You’re the one asserting that sentencing outcomes are predictably skewed by identity.

That’s a positive claim. The burden of showing a pattern sits with the person making it.

Pointing to three cases you dislike isn’t evidence of predictability. Predictable means demonstrable trends across comparable offences, not anecdotes.

If you’re arguing that religion systematically alters sentencing outcomes in Australia, that should show up in sentencing data.

If it doesn’t, then we’re back to individual controversial cases.
Posted by John Daysh, Sunday, 1 March 2026 12:55:46 PM
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May I add a slightly irrelevant observation to the discussion?
However reasonable the law, those who administer it can and do make mistakes.
Most of these mistakes are corrected, eventually, by appeal or otherwise.
But it must be hard for those who are subjected to these errors.
They must wonder if life has gone mad around them.
I also spare a thought for those who were wrongfully hanged in past centuries.
To be treated that way when you knew you were innocent must have been more than profoundly distressing.
It is one of the reasons I reject the idea of having such 'punishment' happen today.
It is far too easy for the law to make an irrevocable error.
This always boils down to human limitation.
Either in the drafting of laws, or the interpretation of those laws.
Luckily, we now have DNA testing to help minimise errors.
And I note that many inconsistencies have been uncovered by this means.
So even though we champion an orderly system of administration, we must allow that nothing is perfect.
And we must strive to achieve better outcomes, and avoid unnecessary distress.
I think, somehow, that we can do better if we try.
A little 'common sense', injected somewhere in to the system, wouldn't go amiss.
And I think that far too often, laws are used as a means of gathering revenue.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Sunday, 1 March 2026 3:09:17 PM
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Pell was the treasurer for the Vatican.
If he wasn't directly involved in pedophilia he was more than likely involved in covering it up.

So 85 kids blown up by Israel and America with 3 schools attacked.
I just saw one Iranian bloke offering his 2 cents while waving around one of the dead girls arms.

Most moral army in the world.
People need to realise that just because people say things doesn't make it true.

Where does this video fit into the narrative?
http://x.com/zainabReza_13/status/2027808392409190552

Joke of the day
http://x.com/OunkaOnX/status/2027960183348203652
"Why does it have to happen to us always?...We didn't do anything"
This is how professional victims play the victim card-right after attacking another country
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 1 March 2026 7:15:19 PM
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So much typical Academic background unproductive waffle. We need solutions & unproductive waffle does not offer solutions !
Get your snouts out of that waffle trough & offer some ideas such as leave these women to their decisions. They've consciously disowned Australia & therefore are no longer our responsibility.
Spend the money & effort on the genuine needy here ! Making greedy soul-less lawyers wealthy at our expense is only playing into the hands of those who desire our demise !
How much does it require to make some of you wake up for crying out loud ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 1 March 2026 8:43:48 PM
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Indy,

No chance of you getting your snout into the waffle trough, when you've had it firmly planted in the welfare trough for the past 50 years! Its unknown as to what the circumstances were that brought these women to the ISIS war zone in the first place, and the situation they now find themselves and their children in. As I said earlier, the Australian government is doing no more than what it is legally required to do.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 1 March 2026 9:26:54 PM
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