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"You've shifted from "this is risky" to "the system is rigged," mhaze."

You put those things in quotes but I didn't say them. Fair dinkum, you spend more time making up my views for me thn actually espousing your own views.

I haven't "shifted" (see how I used your actual words - you should try that sometime), your understanding of what I've said has evolved.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 27 February 2026 5:24:26 PM
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I wasn't quoting you verbatim, mhaze.

//You put those things in quotes but I didn't say them.//

I was summarising the implication of what you've argued. But you already knew that, didn't you?

Let's face it: this isn't about etiquette or accuracy. It's about creating a distraction.

Anyway, if you believe courts systematically mitigate punishment based on religion or political sympathy, that's not a minor concern. That's a claim about structural bias.

If that's not your position, clarify it.
Posted by John Daysh, Friday, 27 February 2026 5:30:14 PM
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I thought I should make something clear.
Whilst our society can be ready to understand and accommodate differing ideological views, at no time should we countenance violence or other forms of serious harm to any person.
So we must be 'eternally vigilant' when assessing people, or indeed groups, which appear to follow other than normally accepted community standards.
Nevertheless, I pose the following.
If your own 14 year old daughter were somehow radicalised, and whisked overseas to marry a 'wrinkly', would you want her returned?
(A 'wrinkly' is someone 30 years of age or older.)
Or would you abandon her to her fate?
I am sure you would do all you could to get your child back, whatever she had done.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Friday, 27 February 2026 5:46:37 PM
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These "ISIS Brides" would be easier to manage in Australia from a security point of view than many of the extremists we have here at present.

"A 20-year-old man from regional WA has been charged with preparing for a terrorist act.
Police allege the man was planning a mass casualty event at public buildings including WA parliament house, police headquarters and Muslim faith places of worship, before being arrested."

"An ethno-nationalist group has gatecrashed a community event held by federal MP for Goldstein Tim Wilson before police were called on Thursday night.
Video shows National Workers Alliance leader Matt Trihey telling attendees that politicians were ignoring the issues of crime and immigration."

Reading the propaganda of this 'National Workers Alliance' (sounds very NAZI) I'm of the opinion that at least one member could be a regular white supremacists poster on this form.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 27 February 2026 7:41:30 PM
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"I was summarising the implication "

Wow... we're back on the 'you implied' bandwagon.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 28 February 2026 12:57:52 PM
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I back mhaze on lack of faith in our courts of law to prosecute Isis brides, or for that matter, ISIS husbands. Precedence supports it.

Muslims are protected, whereas Jews are tolerated, the Albanese way!

Why Convictions Are Unlikely:

If Australians detained in Syria return to Australia, conviction is not automatic.

Here is the official cop-out!..:

Terrorism charges require proof beyond reasonable doubt. Evidence from territory once controlled by Islamic State is often limited or inadmissible. Association or marriage alone does not prove material support. ( if a wife in a war zone is not material to the husband, then it’s difficult to imagine what is).

In the only prominent case in Australia under similar circumstances, Mariam Raad received a non-custodial outcome.

Security concerns may exist, but courtroom proof is a much higher bar.( unless you’re a White Supremacist under the pump, or an applicable red headed woman).

Australia has the weakest response to returning terrorists, whereas, in Europe the current misfit ISIS brides, would be facing tighter scrutiny, and a tougher row to hoe for reentry.
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 28 February 2026 3:04:52 PM
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