Has the introduction of "Hate Laws" also sent a clear message to police, that violent suppression of free speech, that is those citizens having dissenting views, and wishing to express them in the form of public protest, the new order of the day to the police is suppress any contrary opinions, that don't fit the new narrative. It was made clear at Monday nights Sydney protest against the state visit of the Israel's President Isaac Herzog, that "unauthorised" dissent won't be tolerated, and the police have been given carte blanche authority to deal with dissenters! Protesters have accused NSW Police of assaulting members of the public, saying police met them with "sickening state violence", which from filmed evidence would seem to be the case.

Naturally the new arbitrators of free speech, hard right politicians, violent coppers and far right commentators, will defend the actions of police, as most necessary in the name of law and order!

Paul,

The Hate Laws were introduced and passed by Albo and his mates, with cheering from the so-called progressives. The special police powers used to contain the rioters in Sydney on Monday were given to the police by the state ALP government.

Yet somehow silly Paul thinks its all a rightwing conspiracy. What a dill

The right are just as bad as the left on free speech, none have principles.
They'll turn a blind eye when their side does it, then scream the house down in some kind of weird point scoring match when the other side does it.
From the footage I saw the cops aren't any better when it comes to breaking the law either.
The police were probably given strict instructions to come down hard.

Zionist Occupied Government.

The left and the right are too busy fighting each other and seeing the world through a conservative v's progressive lens that they haven't woken up the the fact we're all being screwed, and these things we argue about is just a distraction to occupy us while the ruling classes steer things how they want.

See this bloke wearing the skull cap.
http://x.com/Partisangirl/status/2021626045099913561
Am I supposed to believe he's free of bias when he criminalised my speech?

My speech rights are gone mhaze, don't complain about your gun rights.
We're all being played off against each other over things that essentially have nothing to do with us.

mhaze,

You are 100% correct when I said "Hate Laws" I was referring to all the new suppression laws passed by state and federal, mostly Labor governments, that's why the "". Should I think Labor politicians are not capable of introducing totalitarian laws, well they are, and they have proved it! No finer example of such laws than those introduced by Herr Minns (hard right politician) down there in NSW. Don't expect me to defend the Labor Party operatives when they do things like this. This is over reaction pandering to a small, but powerful lobby group within society.

I'm waiting for the juvenile Tame female, inappropriately in receipt of an Australian of the Year award, to be prosecuted for screeching for a global intifada, aka more slaughtering of Jews and the end of Israel.

According to the leader of the NSW opposition, premier Minns can do this.

Minns has shown himself to be a cut above most Labor politicians in the past. I hope he will do his duty, unlike Albanese who couldn't bring himself to criticise Tame, let alone consider removing her award.

If this dreadful female is not dealt with under the uniparty's hate speech laws, we well have proof of what we suspect: that the laws are only for certain people.

Putting that aside for the moment, I got my greatest laugh from a bunch of Muslim imams declaring that police enforcing the law was "un-Australian".

ttbn,

This is the liberal democracy of Australia, so it suppose to be, not Nazi Germany. Tame's call was to "globalise the intifada" meaning globalise the uprising, although those words do have a connection with inescapable violence in relation to the Palestinian cause. You have never posted one word of disapproval with the Zionist slaughter of 70,000, mostly innocent women and children in Gaza, it would appear you approve of such atrocities, when they are committed by those you agree with. You have not said a word condemning Herzog for signing his name on bombs that were used to kill innocent children in Gaza.

AC, seems certain Australia politicians want to be seen as more Jewish than the Jews themselves, Albo included.
"See this bloke wearing the skull cap" none of the women were wearing skull caps. Why is that? Ha ha

Suppressive laws and police brutality. There is a fix for this.
Protesters or any other disgruntled organised groups need to be assigned
to areas, that do not disrupt ordinary persons going about their daily routines.
Instead of enforced protest watching and police trying to clear passageway for uninterested persons, a designated protest venue needs to be in place. Like somewhere it does not interrupt the daily lives of people not interested.
Somewhere that police are not interested in controlling law and order, and rioters can do what rioters do.
To hold normal people to ransom has got to be illegitimate and un sociable. As it stands the unruly scream violence. [Let them murder
each other]
Mobs of duel citizen running amok for places they left behind.
This is AU if you do not like it f--OF

Hi ttbn,
Just so you know I never really cared much for Grace Tame, not my cup of tea, and I'm not really too sure if she deserves that 2021 award, I'm sure there a lot of other harder working and more deserving quiet achievers.

I wouldn't use the work 'intifada', because the word feels 'Muslim' to me, and if I said it, in my own stupid way I'd feel like I was an adherent of or acquiesce to Islam.

Globalise the resistance is fine with me though.

But just so you know, 'intifada'

AI Overview
"Intifada" is an Arabic word translating to "shaking off" or "uprising," commonly referring to periods of Palestinian resistance against Israeli control
. It signifies a rebellion, involving both widespread protests and violence, specifically highlighting the First (1987-1993) and Second (2000-2005) Intifada.

Protests, no matter by which brand of nutters, do not achieve anything - except even more hate and division.

Protests, hordes of people blocking streets, interfering with the majority, defying police instructions, even defying court decisions that they should not demonstrate in a particular place at a particular time, should cease altogether.

They are as useless as people arguing with each other online. Nothing changes.

Instead of the nonsense - that most Australians don't indulge in anyway - politicians should be politely but adamantly lobbied to change our ridiculous voting system that, as far as I'm aware, is not forced on people anywhere else.

Australia's compulsory preferential voting system “thwarts and distorts” the wishes of the electorate by forcing them to vote for parties, policies and politicians they loathe.

Politicians cannot be properly punished by voters while we have a virtual one-party (the uniparty, which takes turns in wrecking the country) system, and are forced to put a number alongside people we wouldn't piss on if they were on fire, if we want our votes to be formal.

The system is an undemocratic con favouring the uniparty. One way or the other, we elect a dictatorship which does as it pleases once it gets in. This is particularly evident now with the ultra-left Albanese regime; but you can bet your bottom dollar that the other drones will be the same.

If Albanese can get away with what he is doing, so will whoever goes through the sliding door next to “lead” the Liberal Party.

As Plato said, if you don't take an interest in politics, you will find yourself being ruled by your inferiors. And involvement doesn't mean the petulant self-indulgence of public protests, which do nothing but deepen the growing division and hatred in Australia. Not to mention the increasing likelihood of getting your block knocked off.

"No finer example of such laws than those introduced by Herr Minns (hard right politician) down there in NSW."

Chris Minns is hard right? Wow what a dill.

Still, Paul is consistent. In his view anyone to the right of Trotsky is hard right.

mhaze,

I wouldn't say Chris Minns is a dill, your words not mine. BUT, on this issue as Minns tries to placate the powerful Jewish faction, he is acting hard right with his totalitarian laws. As you have no connection with politics, I can tell you I've met many in the Labor Party who I consider more on the right than some Liberals.

Don't forget my Trump question you are yet to answer; Do you agree with The Donald that the Obama's are a family of APES? Daddy Ape, Mummy Ape and all the little Apes. HOW ABOUT AN ANSWER! Me thinks you CHICKEN!

More dill-ishment.

I wasn't saying Minns was a dill - I was describing your idiocy.

Trump didn't say the Obamas were apes. More dill-ishment.

The police were given a job to do and the yahoos seem to think no one
can over rule them.
One of the coppers you saw punching a man on the ground was denounced.
What no one admitted was that that man had another coppers fingers in
his teeth and would not let go.
What was the punching copper supposed to do, let him bight his mates fingers off ?
Lets have no more shilly shalling with these nutters.

Trumpster,

WASHINGTON, Feb 6 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump did not apologize for a video on his social media account depicting Democratic former President Barack Obama and first lady Michelle Obama as apes, a post that triggered swift, bipartisan criticism for dehumanizing people of African descent.

Trumpster, in your typical Trump lying ways deny the truth. Did he say the Obama's were APES, not in words, I never said he uttered those words, no he used his social media account to slander the Obama's as apes.

Bezza,

"the man had another coppers fingers in his teeth and would not let go". When did you make that lie up. And another copper had something of his in the mouth of the copper doing the punching!

Oh Reuters said it. Well it must be true...who ever heard of them lying about Trump. </sarc>

Trump didn't say they were apes. His account reposted a video about the voter fraud in Michigan (which I'm sure you'll never want to watch....mustn't see anything that disrupts the narrative) and at the end of it, the last few seconds it included a clip from an AI generated send up of the Lion King showing various Democrats as jungle animals and Trump as the Lion King (so quite accurate in that regard). BTW it also showed Biden as an ape but you're not getting your knickers in a knot over that.....rather racist of you.

So nothing sinister. Just a bit of fun that the usual fools lost whatever was left of their minds over.

mhaze,

Whether Trump personally typed the word "apes" is irrelevant. If a president amplifies dehumanising imagery of political opponents from his official account, that's endorsement.

The issue isn't Reuters. It's standards. Would you defend that behaviour if it targeted someone you support?

Trumpster,

Your folk hero Donald posted images of the Obama's as APES on his official 'Truth Social' account. My simple question is do you agree with Trump that the Obama's are APES? A yes or no will do.

If I posted an image on my Facebook account of you looking like a grub, would that not indicate I think you are a grub? I believe it would.

I know you like to swoon over Donald, but its too late to get you an invite to Little Saint James Island.... because Trumps good mate Jeffo is a deado! Another question are you also a supporter of Randy Andy in England. Like Donald he seems to be your kinda guy. What do you think of Andy?

"The issue isn't Reuters"

Well Paul raised it so I responded. But since you are the arbiter of all things good and decent, we'll have to bow to your ruling....</sarc>

"Would you defend that behaviour if it targeted someone you support?"

I always, ALWAYS, defend free speech. And I'd see the joke, unlike the dills who take offence at anything and everything.

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"I know you like to swoon over Donald, but its too late to get you an invite to Little Saint James Island"

Well DJT never went to Lolita island. A fact you seem determined to not learn.

BTW, did you see the FBI report in the Epstein files showing that Trump was among the first to report Epstein to the FBI for his activities. What am I saying? Of course you didn't see it. Mustn't see anything that doesn't fit the narrative, eh Paul? And even if you did see it, you'd have forgotten it by tomorrow.

Fair enough, mhaze - you’d defend the legal right. So would I.

But that wasn’t the question.

Do you think it’s appropriate conduct for a sitting president to amplify dehumanising imagery of political opponents?

"Do you think it’s appropriate conduct for a sitting president to amplify dehumanising imagery of political opponents?"

Oh are you talking about Obama calling a large portion of the US population "knuckle draggers" and "mouth breathers".

Oops I forgot. Its only bad when Trump does it.

What I find astounding is that the post Trump reposted was 95% about how voting machines were used to subvert democracy and 1% about Obama. But people aren't upset by the subversion of the vote just feigning upset about a depiction of Democrats as jungle animals. Actually not even that. Biden was shown as a baboon but that seems OK by the perpetually offended. Racism straight up.

mhaze,

Even if Obama used childish insults, that doesn't answer the question.

Do you believe it's appropriate for a sitting president to amplify imagery depicting political opponents as animals?

If it's "just 1%," it shouldn't be hard to say it was unnecessary.

Comrade Trumpster,

Should I thank you for dodging the question. I will broaden it just for you; Do you agree with Trump that the Obama's are APES, and Old Joe is a BABOON? A simple yes or no will do, no percentages required. BTW what other people has Trump likened to primates,I'm not sure is Nancy Pelosi a CHIMPANZEE, is Bernie Sanders an ORANGUTAN. We have to find an animal for your Donald, a few for you to choose from, SLUG, EARTH WORM, COCKROACH, MEALYBUG, I've run out of primates how about THREE-TOED SLOTH, BUZZARD, or those daggy things that hang off the backsides of sheep, don't know their name, but they could be called DONALD'S.

"Do you believe it's appropriate...."

What Trump did is perfectly appropriate, especially in the toxic world the Democrats have created within US politics these days. Amplifying a report showing how democracy is being subverted due to Democrat cheating is highly valuable even if doing so involves showing some of Democrats in a less than favourable light.

Paul asked: "what other people has Trump likened to primates"
Showing that he didn't actually watch the video in question and all his facile angst is based on hearsay. A deep thinker is Paul!! </sarc>

"We have to find an animal for your Donald"

In the video you can't be bothered watching he is shown as the Lion King... which is highly appropriate.

"Do you agree with Trump that the Obama's are APES,"

Paul do you realise this was an AI generated cartoon. Not the same s saying they're Apes or that AOC is a donkey. Paul, please sit down when you read this... Mogilla Gorilla isn't real and nor is Betty Bop. You'll just have to take my word for that.

What I find most amusing is that delicate flowers like JD and Paul are so triggered by an AI cartoon that they have to reach for the fainting couch. How very Victorian (era not the state) of them.

mhaze,

So just to be clear: you believe it is appropriate for a sitting president to amplify imagery depicting political opponents as animals, provided you think the other side has been toxic.

That's a standard. I disagree with it.

I don't think presidential conduct should be contingent on who started it.

"So just to be clear:"

Just to be clear, I recognise that a new normal has been set in the the US polity over the last decade and a half such that making jokes like this are perfectly normal.

Can't help but notice that you are desperate to avoid any contact with the evidence of vote tampering. That, btw is also a new normal although MAGA are doing their best to change it.

"That's a standard. I disagree with it."

You don't have standards, just sides.

Comrade Trumpster,

Unlike you I can't spend hours every night, not that I would want to, sitting up late watching Donald getting it off in his animal videos, especially the ones he and his good buddy Jeffo made on the island. We all know Donald's got the mongrel in him, and his cabinet is full of donkeys, jackasses, hyenas and cuckoo birds, what a menagerie! There were reports that the Donald was wearing black pj's when he was cavorting with Steamy Stormy, not true, he was actually wearing his gorilla suit.

As for YOU, since you are into animals, I think the scientific name is bestiality, what animal do YOU want me to refer to YOU as, Donald has taken most of the names for his political enemies, but there are a couple left that YOU can choose from; GOOSE, TOAD and BILLY GOAT, I understand YOU wanted to be referred to as the GALAH, but that Rubio fella has already taken that one. What's it to be, how about Mhaze the Monkey, now that's got a ring to it, what ya say?

mhaze,

If the "new normal" is presidents amplifying imagery depicting opponents as animals, that's precisely what I think should be resisted rather than accepted.

As for vote tampering, that's a separate question. If you have evidence you consider credible, present it.

But lowering standards of presidential conduct because politics has become toxic isn't something I agree with.

And accusing me of "having sides" doesn't change that.

Hi John,

I have to correct you, "lowering standards of presidential conduct" Having Donald referring to his political opponents as apes, baboons etc, may in the Donald's case, given his track record, actually be raising the political standards from Donald.

Trumpster, you are too slow, J.D. Vance just jumped in and took Billy Goat, you're left with Goose and Toad. Make a choice.

"Unlike you I can't spend hours every night,"

Actually the video lasted about 90 seconds. But as usual Paul shows that he is completely clueless on the issue even while he pretends to know what he's talking about. Whereupon he then plays the clown thinking that makes up for being entirely unaware of the truth.

"And accusing me of "having sides" doesn't change that."

Not an accusation.... an observation.

mhaze,

If you think I have sides, point to where I've applied a different standard to similar conduct.

What I've consistently argued is that presidential conduct shouldn't be justified on the basis of partisan grievance.

If you think that's taking a side, so be it.

Some of the videos of protests have prompted attacks on police.One in particular I noted;
Police had a protestor on the ground one was punching hard with no effect.
The other appeared to be holding him down.
Well it was not quite like that one copper had his fingers in the mouth
and the one punching was trying to stop the protestor from bighting off
his mates fingers.

The other incident is notorious;
While police were moving on protestors two moslems got down on their
knees and took up positions as if they were praying.
The cops dragged them away. This was what was needed and the video
camera was ready.
Then we get all the immans demanding apologies and all the "should know betters"
rushing to apologise the obvious setup.
Even the Prime Minister got sucked in !

Now we can await masses of protestors praying in the streets like they
do in Europe and blocking off major city streets with hundreds on their knees.

It is about time we realise these happenings are well circulated for a reason.

Paul1405,
Go back on all your posts & you'll find that Hate speech laws are aimed at decent folk not at you as they'd be warranted to.

Australian police seize a “wanted” Netanyahu sign with accusations that is “anti-semitic”.
Netanyahu is literally wanted for warcrimes by the ICC, Interpol (international police) has a warrant out for his arrest.
http://x.com/Partisangirl/status/2026819609832337719

Aussie Cops now serve as Zio handmaidens
- Now you know why they were bashing the Palestinian protesters Paul

Zionist Occupied Government ZOG

I'd like to know about the internal culture inside the ranks.
What are they saying to each other, before and after they bash Palestinian protesters.

Seriously, they couldn't pay me enough to hassle people protesting against a genocidal maniac, I wouldn't do it for any price.