mhaze,

Claiming Palestinians are "fictitious" because the identity crystallised in the 20th century is incoherent.

All modern national identities are recent, including Israeli. Italians, Germans, Indonesians, Australians and Israelis did not exist as nations for millennia either.

Palestinians are not a "race" invented by Arafat. They're a population that lived continuously in the region, developed a shared identity under Ottoman, British and then Israeli rule, and are treated today as a distinct group in law, governance and conflict. That is literally how nations form.

Denying their existence doesn’t refute their claims, it just avoids engaging with the actual issues: land, displacement, civil rights and military control.

Stick to ancient history.

"The Palestinian people are fictitious."
So is your brain mhaze.

I hate that, or well I dislike it, not good to hate.
Trying to equate human beings with the 'fabled unicorn'.

The Palestinians aren't real silly one.
They are just made up, like the tooth fairy.

They have to dehumanise them before they train the IDF to murder them mhaze, before the IDF themselves commit suicide because the reality of normal life and getting older starts to bite and they can't live with themselves for mudering women and kids.

If you wish to dehumanise human beings, then you're just acting like a well trained rank and file murdering IDF, and I take offense to it.

They are human beings ok.

You don't have to like Islam to recognise that, nor demonstrate a poor understanding of international law or Israels own history to understand people under occupation have a right of resistance.

But, you do support the genociders, so there's that.
And we can't expect much sense from these people.

Just because you have full support for your mate, suspected blackmailed pedophile 'Orangeman the Pirate'.

It was the Romans, perhaps Augustus that first called them Palistini.
Interestingly there is no letter P in the Arabic alphabet, so I am told.
The problems started when Mohammad sent Arab armies North with their
new religion, Islam, in the 630sAD. Think about that, it is very late historically.
What a neat solution it would be if;
The Palestinians stated as by their DNA that they are Jews or
Christians or Rastafarians or Canaanites.
They could all accept that they have lived in that area for millenia,
and drop all their historic history of warfare, but it would require
that those that stay cannot have a religion that has to be the only religion.
Yes ttbn and that is the current problem.

While this pointless crap was going on, Australian police were telling 4,000 Australian Jews that they couldn't leave a building because the Pro-Palestian, antisemitic thugs outside were dangerous to them.

We live in an ultra-Left, antisemitic society ruled by a dictator you elected; and the best you can come up with is who Palestinians are. You idiots!

Well ttbn, I have to agree with your comments.
All I have done has suggested a way out for the Palastini if they could
be big enough to climb down and accept themselves as one of the DNA groups.
These DNA readings would be a big out for everyone.
Islam being a Johnny come lately should be easy to shake off once an
individual accepted the reality.
Israel seems to have a policy of accepting Jews from anywhere.
Why not out of their own backyard ?
All this MUST be known to the Israelis and the Islamic scholars.
Now all said and done I am very pessimistic that such a path will be
adopted by the Israelis. More the pity !

No we don't we have a absolute dogs breakfast of a democracy, and both are traitors for being Zionist occupied governments as well as other issues, and the problem wasn't the protesters, it was allowing the bloke to come here in the first place, and legitimising Israels actions in Gaza.

And this Grace Tame business.
Firstly, I never thought that much of her, and I agree preventing sexual assault is good, but I'm not sure she should've gotten Australian of the Year award.

But calls to strip it from her (Barnaby Joyce) is just pathetic.

"If that is her schtick that she now wants to continue on with. There's no greater contempt than the contempt for the person that in the past you believed was something of a beacon and something to reflect on as having virtue now is seen as something of a curse"

What's wrong with all these people?
What's Grace Tames efforts preventing sexual assault (Australian of the Year) got to do with her personal stance on Palestine?
Barnaby wants to rescind the award.
She won the award in 2021, there's no taking it back.
Threats to do so are pathetic, he wants to retroactively turn back time?

I don't like this idea that once an award is given, it can be taken away, dangled over a persons head with an implied message 'You must act a certain way or we'll take your award away'.

If Grace Tame starts posing nude, takes up heroin, posts online that kids shouldn't listen to their parents, that Israel is shite and Australia's become shite too, you still can't turn back time and take the award away, and she's still entitled to live her life as she chooses and say whatever she thinks and believes is right.
No-one has to agree.

Objecting to her stance makes Barnaby look bought and paid for, authoritarian and pathetic.

Fat bloated-faced clown.
Go eat some more slop from the trough, but don't expect me too.
Try cutting back on your taxpayer funded smorgasbords.
He couldn't even be loyal to his own wife.