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The Brexit

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One of the central arguments behind the Brexit move was that the principle of free movement prevented the UK government from controlling who could enter the country.

It was the U.K.'s version of "We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come".

Brexit has caused a collapse in migration from EU countries and an enormous surge in migration from non-EU countries.

According to The Migration Observatory at Oxford University in 2022 Net Migration of EU citizens was -140 000 while Net Migration for non-EU citizens was 965 000.

In 2024,Net Migration of EU citizens was -96 000 while Net Migration for non-EU citizens was 544 000.

Somehow I don't think that this is what many Leave voters were expecting from the promised "taking back control".
Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Thursday, 8 January 2026 8:45:49 AM
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The Brexiteer's main point was that the level and nature of immigration would be determined by Britain rather than Brussels. And it is. Mission accomplished.

But what they couldn't have known, or even guessed is that the British government making the immigration decisions would be utterly unconcerned about keeping levels under control and instead seek to import as many future Labour voters as they could.

I find it mildly musing that people and governments treat immigration as an uncontrollable force of nature. The level and nature of UK immigration is decided by the UK (as the Brexiteers wanted) but not in the interests of the UK.

Those poor British natives will have to await the next election to fix what has become a civilisation threatening debacle by the worst government in their history.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 8 January 2026 4:57:42 PM
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Google? Britain debt to GDP

AI Overview

The UK's debt-to-GDP ratio is historically high, hovering around 100% of GDP, with figures showing Public Sector Net Debt (PSND) around 95-96% of GDP as of late 2025 and central government debt exceeding 100% in 2024. This level, last seen in the early 1960s, reflects significant borrowing to fund services, making fiscal sustainability a key challenge for the government, requiring substantial consolidation measures

Google? UK debt since brexit

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UK debt has risen substantially since Brexit, driven by increased spending during the pandemic and slow post-Brexit growth, reaching around £2.9 trillion (nearly 100% of GDP) by late 2025, with higher borrowing costs and reduced investor confidence exacerbating fiscal pressures, making debt servicing more expensive than defence and straining public services

Google? what is the inevitable outcome if every nations money is loaned into existence

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If every nation's money were solely loaned into existence, the inevitable outcome would be systemic instability due to exponential debt accumulation, leading to recurring financial crises, increased economic inequality, and a perpetual need for more debt.
Key Outcomes:

Perpetual Debt Expansion: The core issue is that when money is created as a loan with interest, only the principal is created, not the extra money required to pay the interest. This creates a structural need for ever-increasing new loans to cover the interest payments on existing debt, driving exponential growth in global debt that outpaces real economic growth...
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 9 January 2026 1:52:57 AM
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Yes, this was both predictable and predicted. For most Leave voters, “taking back control” was thought to mean lower overall migration and less pressure on housing and services, but ending free movement doesn’t end demand.

What followed was not a general reduction but a sharp rebalancing. EU migration fell heavily while non-EU migration rose well beyond pre-Brexit levels. That may reflect deliberate policy choices, but it doesn’t dissolve the original expectation.

The whole debacle highlights the gap between slogans and outcome.

Saying “the UK decides” answers who holds the pen, not what was promised. Brexit didn’t end the immigration debate, it relocated it and exposed how little sovereignty alone determines outcomes. Again, all predictable and predicted.
Posted by John Daysh, Friday, 9 January 2026 5:24:34 AM
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Australia is in chaos, but some people want to talk about Brexit, something that has bugger all to do with us.

In the meantime our "incredibly shrinking" Prime Minister has backed down on not having a RC, but has appointed a Marxist mate as Commissioner.

Bell is the woman who didn't know that it has always been illegal to hold demonstrations on Sydney Harbour Bridge, and was allowed to get a way with her ignorance by equally ignorant politicians.

But, let's waffle on about the UK, which is now totally irrelevant to Australia, apart from a new King who is an idiot, and his successor, Prince Baldy who is sickeningly woke. As for the Brits themselves, they are predicted to be only 30% white in the near future.

They will keep their outdated class system though creating black Knights and Lords, as they already are, looking sillier than the white ones.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 9 January 2026 6:52:03 AM
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A bit more on Merry Olde England that makes Brexit as irrelevant to the Brits as the UK is to us, now

According to demographic projections by Professor Matt Goodwin based on official data, the share of white British in the UK population will halve from 70 per cent today to 34 per cent in 2100. They will be in a minority by 2063, and the foreign-born and their descendants will be the majority by 2079. White Britons will be minorities in the three biggest cities (London, Birmingham, Manchester) by 2050 and by 2075, all three could well be Muslim-majority cities.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 9 January 2026 7:15:02 AM
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