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International law is no such thing

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Ttbn- The Liberal Party might be able to help ON to win the next election at this rate. How does PM Hanson sound? Our version of Margaret Thatcher, surely she would do a better job than Julia Gillard.

Fester- Yes I'm sure the Ayatollah Khamenei appreciates Albanese's support and has him on his Christmas Card List- or maybe he likes him so he's not on his Christmas Card List. (Remember the anthrax letters.)

Anyway we shouldn't be supporting PM Netenya-who? or Ayatollah Khamenei, it's all pretty low brow stuff. What to do? We need the oil... We need to find an alternative to ME oil so we can move on to a better class of idiot.

Armchair Critic-I suppose that mainland Europe are like the Democrats, they don't do anything, they take other peoples money, but complain a lot
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 10 January 2026 6:26:29 PM
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Hi CM,

I look at Trump's conduct as an assault on the idea of moral equivalence. Did you know that Qatar is a major player in undermining western civilisation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_VIUeBCFVE&t=606s

I was very pleased with what Trump did in Venezuela, and hope that the US and Israel can help the good people of Iran. Democracy should be valued and nurtured. People believing in democracy are our allies wherever they are. United we stand, divided we fall.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 10 January 2026 7:49:07 PM
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CM,

Not Pauline. The PM has to come from the lower house. Think Barnaby Joyce. Not perfect, but his popularity is at -4%, whereas both the current PM and the Leader of Opposition are on -11%. Why not him?
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 10 January 2026 10:30:17 PM
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Do you keep a diary or something mhaze,

"How many posts did it take to get you to see the truth about you false claims on the Russian language in Ukraine."

- Ah yes, that's where your tantrums all started.

Google? what were russian language demands of ukraine in 2014

AI Overview
In 2014, Russian language "demands" weren't formal requests but rather grievances from pro-Russian groups and Russia itself, focusing on preserving Russian as a widely used language, especially after Ukraine's parliament tried to repeal the 2012 regional language law, which granted Russian "regional language" status in some areas; these concerns were used by Russia as a pretext for intervention, claiming protection for Russian speakers against perceived anti-Russian "nationalist" actions by the new Kyiv government, including banning Russian TV
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Key Demands & Grievances:

Status for Russian: Pro-Russian activists and Russia itself advocated for Russian to maintain significant official standing, ideally as a second state language.
Reversal of Language Law Repeal: A major flashpoint was the Ukrainian parliament's (Verkhovna Rada) move in February 2014 to abolish the 2012 "Kivalov-Kolesnichenko" law, which allowed Russian (and other languages) to become regional languages where speakers met a 10% threshold.
Protection from "Suppression": Russia claimed Ukraine's new government was aggressively suppressing Russian language and culture, citing actions like banning Russian TV channels and limiting Russian language use in media and education.

Ohh... So they DID change a law in 2014, Just like I told you Lavrov said. and you've been acting like a girl ever since...

Not the later language Law change as I stated at the time, 2014.

Whats this mhaze?
'limiting Russian language use in media and education.'

I told you Russian speaking kids couldn't go to school, and that Russian speaking people wanting to run for local government could no longer be represented...

Lavrov's a liar you said.

Maybe if you'd accepted you were wrong that first time, you wouldn't have carried on and on and on and on for how many years has it been now mhaze?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 11 January 2026 3:48:19 AM
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But the law wasn't actually repealed until a few years later, (the new laws I did find) but it was the controversy at the time that you refused to acknowledge.

In any case, Ukraine bombed it's own people for 8 years, lost the right to rule over them despite Russian attempts to placate Ukraine and also support these peoples interests..

Then this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Debaltseve

Then Minsk 2, all a ruse to buy time and save the Ukrainian fighters when Putin has negotiated in good faith.

Then in December 2021 they send the letter demanding NATO stop it's move eastwards.
Then they acknowledged the independence of Luhansk and Donetsk regions 8 years after the Maidan and Crimean referendum, because the Ukrainians just wouldn't stop killing Russian speaking civilians, and then Luhansk and Donetsk had to apply to become Russian, which was approved in the Duma and then Russia entered the war 'NOT INVADED' but under the right of collective self defense, such as in the Caroline affair.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_affair

And the US and NATO had set the precedent for this itself, with the bombing of Yugoslavia and creation of Kosovo.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 11 January 2026 4:15:26 AM
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Hi AC,

Do you think that looking at what the vassal states are like might give you some insight into what the ruling country is like? Look at Iran. A brutal Islamic republic in a nation where only about 20% are Muslim. You hear criticism of Israel being a colonial regime, but isn't that just what Iran is? Funny thing is though that many people enraged by colonialism never seem to have Iran on the list.

I cannot think of a more revolting regime, responsible for sponsoring so much hatred and harm around the world. The regime is failing because Russia can't help them kill the protestors. In contrast, Trump is being hailed by Iranians for warning the regime against violent suppression.

If the regime falls, there will still be the influence of Qatar, but it will be interesting to see if any reduction in hatred and violence in the sphere of influence results.

I'm glad that Trump can salvage some good from the tragedy in Ukraine.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 11 January 2026 6:41:38 AM
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