I have just been reading a depressing article on the Gaza & Hamas problem.
It seems that Hamas is refusing to even be considering surrendering their
arms to anybody and that any so called peacekeeping force will not
be allowed in Gaza. Only any government for the area will only be
allowed if it accepts Hamas control. As soon as they reequip they
intend to restart attacking Israel.
Also no Arab country wants to be involved in peacekeeping and enforcing
peace in Gaza as they would be condemned as traitors.
Only Israel seems interested in sorting it all out.
To me it seems that the only solution can be that Israel and the Arabs
engage in a never ending war until one side is eliminated.
A very depressing outlook but no solution is available.
It is a fight to the end and the sooner they geton with it the better
for all of the rest of us.

Leave it to those who can do something about it. Even the media is not bothering any more.

Dear Bezza,

Poor people have nothing to lose.

Israel and most Arab countries are no longer enemies because the ordinary Arabs in general are more affluent and educated. Not so the Gazans.

Shariah law keeps loosening in Saudi Arabia and even in Iran.
Once ordinary Gazans have more materially and get a life, they too will no longer accept Islamic law.

Have you noticed that the U.S.S.R is no longer?
In under a year there will be fresh elections in Israel.
A new Israeli government that allows and supports Gazan rehabilitation and eventually a "Palestinian" state in the West Bank and Gaza, connected by some bridge or tunnel, will remove all incentives of the so-called "Palestinians" to continue with their stupid armed conflict.

Remember, it was Netanyahu who financed Hamas to begin with, but he will not remain in power forever.

"A very depressing outlook but no solution is available"
- Well they could just state their borders or enter into fair negotiations that give the Palestinians their own state.

Iran now reserves the right to conduct a pre-emptive strike if threatened.

Hamas is democratic, they will hand over power to a Palestinian government, but Israel won't allow it, so they get what they have coming to them.

- Beyond that I'm kind of hoping China will defeat Zionism.
(Though not necessarily destroy the State of Israel)

Even Australia estimates that by 2035 China will be 24% of the global economy whilst U.S. will be 14%.

These are the facts.
It's the same reason Britain was once global hegemon and reserve currency in the 19th century, the same reason why the U.S. become global hegemon and reserve currency in the 20th century, and why China will become global hegemon and reserve currency in the 21st.

Australians, particularly the anonymous ones who just sound off on the internet, and have no influence at all, should stick to the problems in their own country, where at least they get a vote. Think about mass immigration, the inability to defend ourselves and our slowing productivity,

Bugger foreigners.

Armchair, the catch however is that the Islarmist Arabs do not want a
two state solution and if they got one they would still attack Israel.
If they wipe out Israel then we are next !

Dear Bezza,

«if they got one they would still attack Israel. If they wipe out Israel»

Only if they can, only if they can...
There is no way anyone could wipe out Israel when it is united with the same cause they all agree about.

Plus, when you have your own state, there is so much more you can lose!

Well you have two parts of the problem Bezza.
The engineered conflicts causing the mass immigration, and the fools amongst us letting them in.
If our own western politicians do what the European ones have done we're stuffed anyway.

ttbn says bugger foreigners, but we're now largely a nation of foreigners.
And Western democracy is a shite sandwich, doesn't matter which half of the sandwich you choose to eat, it's still shite.
And look at our leaders, what a sad bunch they all are.

The women in charge wouldn't be fit to run the CWA.
And the blokes would be flat out managing the Sunday BBQ.
You telling me you think Albo could organise a family BBQ on his own?
Doubtful.

Sorry, but I'll support human rights and sovereign nations over religious based conflict for an apartheid state engaged in ethnic cleansing and genocide.
I'm not going to support what Israel does to Palestinian women and kids and I support Palestinians right to resist oppression.
If you take the opinion that babies in the womb are terrorists that deserve to die, you'd be as bad as the Israelis.

You do realise that when Israel claims Palestinians as Amalek they are drawing on religious beliefs to kill every man woman and child, and American Christian Zionists have their fingerprints all over it?
That's why we have a target on our backs.

If you go see my comments on another thread you'll find I'm not so happy with religions right now.

"If they wipe out Israel then we are next !"
If they wiped out Israel it wouldn't be because Israel hasn't deserved it.
Israel deliberately kills innocent people and attacks all it's neighbours with impunity.
If they act like NAZI's and terrorists they deserve to be treated as ones.

I won't turn a blind eye to it, not even if I believed they were the lesser evil.

Keep it local.

The Blacktown Council has ‘sister-citied’ Baguio City in the Philippines.

$25.000 of ratepayers money is sending the Mayor, the CEO, and the ‘sister cities manager’ off on a jaunt to the Philippines.

The Council also has $43k’s worth of dealings with cities in China, South Korea and New Zealand.

Meanwhile, they have jacked up rates by $170, and businesses wacked with 15% increase and another 8.5% next year.

Sticking your heads into foreign sand won’t stop the crap going on in your own country - federally, state-wise, and ridiculous amateur local government - where you at least get a vote.

But, of course, you don’t even use that democratic right properly, as the recent election shows: the return of the worst government ever, with 30% of the primary vote, because you do know how, or are too lazy to, use the preferential system, and vote strategically in the Senate.

But, you just keep on boo hooing about foreign countries until your own country becomes just like them.

Australians truly deserve the bunch of rotten politicians they have.

"Meanwhile, they have jacked up rates by $170, and businesses wacked with 15% increase and another 8.5% next year."

- Because they are effing scum that put themselves not their constituents first.
What can I do about that ttbn?
Doesn't matter who or how many we chuck out of office the next lot of do-gooders are always worse.

Purge the whole damn lot of them.
More backhands across the face required.
(That's not an actual threat)

But damn wtf is wrong with these people?
Pissing the munny away, when people can't afford rent.
Lets try to push it up a little higher, the idiots.

Stupid coalition haven't helped anything.
Eat your shite sandwich and enjoy it.
Might as well ask the Chinese to come and run things.

Struth....There's delusional, there's monumentally off your rocker and there's whatever the hell these things are:

"Hamas is democratic,"

"Even Australia estimates that by 2035 China will be 24% of the global economy whilst U.S. will be 14%."

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There are two ways to get peace with the so-called Palestinians both of which involves them realising that they can never win. Until then their leadership will continue to lead these poor blighted people down a miserable garden path.

Might as well ask the Chinese to come and run things.
Armchair critic,
Much preferable to that dark ages mob !

No Mhaze, they believe that on the last day Allah will bring them victory.
If Allah says that then they will be victorious.

There are two ways to get peace with the so-called Palestinians
maze,
That's about the gist of it ! just as there can never be economic equality with Socialists.
The one & only way is reason & common sense which sadly is absent in both cases !
Since the educated have become the stupid & the ignorant aren't allowed to learn I suppose we'll just have to hit that brick wall built by those stupid !

Oh look a Palestinian Christmas tree!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-07/christmas-tree-lighting-ceremony-in-bethlehem-2025/106111514

They must be kind, decent tolerant caring people to have Christian celebrations in Palestine.

Here's the live footage of the singing and celebrations for the lighting of the tree.

http://x.com/Partisangirl/status/1997666691703242875
Bethlehem Palestine lights up the Christmas tree, this is birthplace of Jesus and Christianity. This is only possible because the city is under Palestinian control.

Speaking of kind, decent tolerant caring people...

Israeli rabbis launch war on Christmas tree
http://www.aljazeera.com/features/2016/12/23/israeli-rabbis-launch-war-on-christmas-tree

"Nazareth – As tens of thousands of Christian pilgrims converge on the Holy Land this week to celebrate the birth of Jesus, senior Israeli rabbis have announced a war on the Christmas tree.

In Jerusalem, the rabbinate has issued a letter warning dozens of hotels in the city that it is 'forbidden' by Jewish religious law to erect a tree or stage new year’s parties."

I wonder if the Jews are thinking about air strikes on the tree and festivities, maybe settlers will probably try to burn down a church or something like they do, Western Christians won't say a damn thing.
Some Western Christians are over there helping out with the dispossession and ethnic cleansing.

"Struth....There's delusional, there's monumentally off your rocker and there's whatever the hell these things are..."

Struth alright...
How did I miss this opportunity to make you look stupid once again?
Hang on...

'Hamas is democratic'

Doctrine of Hamas
October 20, 2023

http://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/doctrine-hamas

xxix. The PLO is a national framework for the Palestinian people inside and outside of Palestine. It should therefore be preserved, developed and rebuilt on democratic foundations so as to secure the participation of all the constituents and forces of the Palestinian people, in a manner that safeguards Palestinian rights.
xxx. Hamas stresses the necessity of building Palestinian national institutions on sound democratic principles, foremost among them are free and fair elections. Such process should be on the basis of national partnership and in accordance with a clear program and a clear strategy that adhere to the rights, including the right of resistance, and which fulfil the aspirations of the Palestinian people.

'Even Australia estimates that by 2035 China will be 24% of the global economy whilst U.S. will be 14%.'
- I just spent half an hour trying to find the video but couldn't find it. I think the info came from Australian QUT Prof. Warwick Powell quoting from some Australian Government departments own documents.
I'm not sure I have the patience to go digging any further for it right now, you can dispute it, and I haven't seen the actual document, but I'm not a liar.

I'm happy to settle for just making you look half-stupid on this occasion mhaze.
Maybe I'll go looking a bit harder later or come across the info again sometime, it does kind of annoy me I wasn't about to make you look full-stupid, but oh well.

It's funny how the things you think to be true without question though turn out not to be as true as one thinks right?
(You get a lot of that with Israel)

The future Bezza will be an AI powered surveillance state.
Everything you do and say will be monitored.

You're too busy focused on one threat, when it's not the real one.

"Hamas stresses the necessity of building Palestinian national institutions on sound democratic principles, foremost among them are free and fair elections. "

Yes we all remember how many free and fair elections Hamas held after they took power in 2007. Any advance on zero. Nil. Nada. Bupkis. SFA.

Seriously, AC. Is there nothing you won't fall for?

Armchair said;
You're too busy focused on one threat, when it's not the real one.

That threat has been very successful for 1400 years so why would
they abandoned it now ?
It is working well in Europe judging by the changes that are
now happening in the UK. Legal Sharia Courts in a Westminister System !

Belgium is probably the best example in Europe.

Europe's leadership is it's own worst enemy Bezza.
They don't need Muslims to destroy themselves.

I agree, the public is starting to complain about
the immigration in European countries.
Ring any bells here ?

"Seriously, AC. Is there nothing you won't fall for?"
- I don't really care what you think mhaze.

You side with the genociders and rapists
I side with the ones who want their own state and to be free.
We can debate and frown upon Islam in the West all we want, you won't get much opposition from me, it was Israels wars that brought them here, and our sellout muppet leaders that decided to go along with 'woke promoting multiculturalism and inclusivity show'.

And that's a part of your beloved democracy.

I was just thinking how the western empire is greedy and stupid.
They built up the west then exported all the job to China, it was all about 'free trade' while some in the West got richer, at the expense of Western jobs. And now all the West is complaining about the rise of China, their 'unfair trade practices' their 'overcapacity' their 'control of supply chains'. China didn't do anything except take advantage of the Wests greed and stupidity, and now the west is so desperate they're resorting to theft, stealing from Russia and Russians, and Chinese, and Venezuelans.
And I'm thinking, rules based order, what a joke.
And look at these Western leaders, what total dregs they are.

But in any case, armed forces of the Russian Federation are finishing up in Siversk, Slovyansk power plant will be destroyed and the battle for Slovyask and Kramatorsk will begin. They'll be in darkness, it's started snowing, pipes will freeze and burst and the civilian population will leave.
Russians have a foothold in Konstantinivka.
Myrnohrads completely surrounded with 2000 Ukrainians, there's no chance for them to regain control.
They also have a foothold in Huliapole, and are making progress moving up along the Dnieper towards Zaporizhia City, they will take Orikviv from both East and West and from behind.
The whole entire defensive line will collapse in a few months.

You're missing the point AC.

You claimed Hamas was democratic based purely on their propaganda when, in real life, they are clearly not democratic. They took power and never allowed another vote. You fell for their propaganda and ignored the real world experience. So very typically AC.

"The whole entire defensive line will collapse in a few months."

You've been saying that for three years now... that the Ukrainians army is on the brink of folding. Who knows... one day you might be right and then you'll run around telling us how right you were while ignore the myriad times you were wrong.

BTW wasn't Odessa going to fall two years ago? How's that going?

"BTW wasn't Odessa going to fall two years ago? How's that going?"

- slow and methodical, coming along.
The west can only do shock and awe, they can't do sustained ground combat, wars of attrition, Russian objectives will be achieved.

So whose going to start the Muslims V's Jews Sydney massacre shitfest thread?
That's going to get messy I think.

Bondi Beach attack: Australia’s history of false flags; correction by Netanyahu | Janta Ka Reporter
http://youtu.be/F9GCu5B9Ff8

Netanyahu: "[Albo] did nothing to stop the spread of antisemitsm..."

Shut your god-damn mouth and mind your own scumbag countries fecking business Bibi you murderous leader of a pedophile genocidal rape-culture religious-nationalist radicalised fanatic nation.

I'll criticise if it's deemed worthy of being criticised.
YOU DON'T TELL ME YOU MASS MURDERER.

Criticising doesn't mean I'll physically attack innocent people.
- That would make me as bad as you -

Bibi's attempt to stifle criticism of Israels actions should be met with EVEN MORE HARSHER CRITICISM.