Well Pauline Hanson thinks so. Hanson is waiting for a couple of high profile Liberals to make the call and ask if they can come to the party. Its no secret that Hanson wants Andrew Hastie and Jacinta Price in One Nation, along with Barnaby Joyce, who Hanson has been talking with about joining. No doubt there are other hard right reactionary Liberals and Nationals, who could also be tempted to come on board with Pauline. Where would that leave poor Susan Ley? Partyless no doubt! Labor would have a field day.

I have long said that the conservatives should join as they all have the same philosophy & goals to reintroduce whatever little common sense can be mustered within this Demographic.
Hard Right as opposed to soft Left is a natural necessity to bring back some sort of balance.
It's a case of symbiosis vs parasitism. For too long now the Woke Left has been an unsustainable drain on the providers. Stop dreaming Australia !

Who cares?

This four and a bit line post comes straight from the media. We all glanced at it and yawned. Silly politicians playing silly games. Trying to detract us from their failures and unsuitability for service. It's all about them, not Australia or Australians.

Joyce has merely advised that he won't be standing in his electorate at the next election. He could just be retiring to his farm, for all anyone knows or cares. And Pauline is saying what she thinks everyone expects her to say.

As for the seven “conservatives” who are rumoured to be considering a move to the Nationals, well that's all it is: a rumour. And the two young “rebels” in the Leyparty are just having a lark.

The problem with Australian politics is not the rubes playing the game; it is the Westminster system, compulsory voting, and preferential voting that favours two parties.

Another thing more important to Australia than a few richardhead politicians manoeuvring for self gain is the mass immigration that saw a 1950s house in a very ratty suburb of Adelaide, Brahma Lodge, bring $960,000 at an auction attended entirely by immigrants. Not a single white person was seen in the large crowd.

Some years ago Donald Trump supported the Democrats. Now he is referred to by some as extreme right, yet his political views have changed little. These days you are extreme right if you don't hate Jews or go along with the government narrative.

A healthy society is one in which people hold a range of views and don't feel that there might be repercussions for sharing them.

Fester,
I wonder what causes people to think that a person should not change their views when everything around them changes.
On the other hand, a welded-on Labor supporter (75 yrs old) told me the other day that no matter what's happening now hell still vote Labor next time !
He simply can't see how society's changed particularly under the present administration.

Hi Indy,

"I wonder what causes people to think that a person should not change their views when everything around them changes."

Yes, world events and life experience no doubt play their part, but you wouldn't want the cops arresting you in the middle of the night for tweeting "F.... Hamas" and a few other things as happened to one bloke in the UK recently.

As for the Lib/Nats, they don't seem to know what they stand for and need to conduct an investigation that will take a year to give them some answers. I would not be surprised if more left.

"These days you are extreme right if you don't hate Jews or go along with the government narrative."

I think conservatives are done for so long as they support Israel unconditionally, it's not about hating Jews, it's about opposing a neverending conflict, slaughter and genocide.

Conservatives need to wake up and realise supporting a genocide isn't going to get them elected, they're only making their problems worse.

Christians might be the largest denomination in terms of religion supported, but they're still a minority in relation to population.

The LNP needs to disband, how can Nationalists also be Israel-firsters?

Hi AC,

People are going to have a range of views on any subject. Are you good or bad for having a particular view? You're well aware that I believe that freedom of expression and argument are essential for the development and progression of civilisation, so while I might not like some points of view, I think of the bigger picture and see freedom of expression as ultimately leading to good outcomes.

I get concerned when government starts complaining about the effect of "misinformation" and how it needs to be controlled by restricting free expression. The origin of that outcome lies in the vilification of someone for holding a particular point of view.

Liberal voters are like Collingwood supporters they are born and told that is who they vote for.
We have voting to appease the swing voters, unlike some we can change our mind of who we vote for.
To vote 100 % conservative is neither good for the country or out voting system.
The rise of one nation is fed by the decline of far right politics.
The dramatic decline was attributed by Abbott and Morrison.
One was a Lier the other was a drop kick.
Hard headed liberals can not see the light of day they are better off aligned with Putin.
Pig headedness is the term for died in the wool far right believers.

The rise of one nation is fed by the decline of far right politics.
doog,
that's just so wrong. It is just so demoralising that there are people in 2025 who still can't see !
Left Woke is what causes the dissatisfaction that makes people realise that the parasitism that is the Left Woke can only be countered by the proven conservative mentality.
As I said a number of times already, working i.e. revenue producing people are fed up with supporting the hangers-on useless who are generally of the Left.
None of them have the integrity & pride to make a good citizen either Labor or LNP.
There's no question that conservative orientated people are of healthier mentality as most of them believe in symbiosis rather than just parasitism.

Who Cares? Asks ttbn, did you not care in 2019 when you were pushing the virtues of the Cory Bernardi Australian Conservatives, or in 2022 and again in 2025 when you were on this forum beating the drum for One Nation, I think you do care. A true conservative would not entertain One Nation, being a radical political outfit as it is, even if it does embrace some so called conservative values. Imagine old Pig Iron Bob sitting at the same table as Jim Saleam, discussing Australia's future political direction. Me thinks not.

The Australian Parliament is a sheltered workshop for stupid people. It has really gone to the dogs since 2019, the year that Paul is stuck in, jabbering about an ex-politician most people wouldn't even remember.

I don't remember “beating the drum” about One Nation. I have no connection to One Nation. It's a party that I can put ahead of all others because it is closest to my beliefs. I am not a member of it. I have never been a member of any political party.

There are too many stupid politicians and parties ensconced in the system for One Nation to make any difference. Then there are all the stupid people voting for handouts from the destructive Albanese neo-Communists.

There is no hope for Australia. And I DO NOT care. I say what I mean. Stupid politicians, enabled by stupid people, have turned Australia into a shitshow. It won't change in my lifetime, so there is no reason for me to care. Australia treats elderly people with careless disrespect, and there is no incentive for us “old farts” to give a toss.

Died in the wool far right support. Destroying themselves believing in a one party nation. Australians are not backward when choosing a govt. Au was always a labor government. Not wild and wooly english style of govt:

One Nation, being a radical political outfit
Paul1405,
yet another one of your pearlers ! The only radical outfits in this Nation are the parasitic leftist Woke elite ! The same ones you appear to support so vehemently !

Given that a large percent of Aussies now identify as immigrants, only one major party can cater for that position.

31% of are Aussies born overseas, identify as immigrants
If you include people with at least 1 parent born overseas the figure rises to 48% and possibly higher if the statistics are out of date.
44% of Australians identify as Christians.

Immigration has now become the new Australian religion, and you can bet that all candidates know the demographics of their electorate.
Issues that affect immigrants are logically more important than religion is to the average voter.

What are the LNP going to do?
Campaign against immigrants and support for Israel?
To the Africans and Muslim immigrants?

Moral to the story
The hard right can merge with one nation, but it's not going to make any difference.
We've probably reached a tipping point where conservative politics has become irrelevant, and democracy itself is little more than an illusion.
The immigrant voting block has become too big, and true blue old school Aussies are now a minority, without a voice and headed to the dustbin of history.

The people who were were, that we were one proud of, are now just all racist POS's and despised under the banner of political correctness in this new Australia.

Are the people in the UK proud of what their country has become?
That's our future and that of all the West.

Group all the minorities together, to dislodge the majority.
Divide and conquer.
Do all democracies have a best before date?
A point in which any form of national unity is impossible?
That we are no longer a 'people' but merely a cultureless region acting as a half-way house for anyone who wants to come and go.

I don't really care about other cultures, if the price was destroying our own.
Immigrant nation.

Whats the point of voting?
Supporters of immigrants and gays V's supporters of genocide.
Not much in there for the average Joe Bloggs except increased cost of living and being criticised by those aligned with foreign interests.

democracy itself is little more than an illusion.
Armchair Critic,
It was never anything else !

Instead of “caring” about the Home and Away antics of Barnaby et al, we, particularly those with wild imaginationings about the far-right (anyone not a communist) might like to start caring about the real extremists who are getting more confident, thanks to standard, run of the mill politicians like Labor, Liberals, Greens, Teals and other cranks wrecking Australia and its values.

There's an outfit with the registered business name of White Australia Pty. Ltd., that is in the process of applying for registration as a political party.

There's Thomas Sewell's so-called Nazi Party that is recruiting to form a new political party. Given the alarming changes in Australia, it shouldn't be hard for him to get the 1,500 people necessary.

‘Neo-Nazi watchers’ are calling these groups' efforts “ambitious, serious and frightening”.

Not something we want, but the more mass immigration, multiculturalism, falls in living standards and traditional values are forced on people by the current Canberra crazies, the more popular the actual extremists will become.

Of course we need the bigoted racists of a White Australia Party, they could swap preferences with One Nation and the Nazi Party. I actually agree that these extremist, and any others, legitimately having the right to express their political opinions, and even seek election to our democratic parliament. Although the 3 mentions would find it difficult to express their opinions without the hateful bile they dribble, given they are grass roots haters to begin with.

Gee ttbn, all that dosh you donated to Corny, didn't it get you party membership? In that case you were a real sucker.

Of course the Coalition and one nation should be all initiated in the same heap.
Actually the madam says some effective things occasionally.
Any thing could be better than what is happening in the lower ranks now.
Albo is shining bright so why disturb the Pease.

IT,s only radicals causing disruption. Why issue permits to demonstrators to disrupt day to day livers of persons that are not interested in a heap of as soles that want to disrupt every person not interested in what they are selling. That is not free speech that is preying on a captive audience.

More interesting than what our retarded politicians do - Trump has told Rudd that he doesn’t like him, and never will.

Rudd, who meekly apologised to Trump after the meeting with Albanese, is now the laughing stock of Washington.

Albanese should now have the sense to get rid of Rudd, but sense and Albanese don’t really belong together.

Just like you should never apologies to the school yard bully,no one needs to apologies to the "village idiot" in the White House, for telling the truth. Trump should apologies for his incompetence now, and during his Covid term, and the million Americans whose deaths his ratty behaviour caused.

I'll bet the "village idiot" knows how to spell apologise.

Seems The Donald was rather impressed with Albo, the best Aussie PM he's met, don't say much for ScumO' and Turnballs. Trump like to deal, and Albo got a couple of deals for Australia, including the sale of rear earth minerals to US.

All I made was a typo, you the old welfare fraud gave money to the Corny Banana Party, who jetted around the country, staying in 5 star digs, and living it up on your pensioner welfare. No doubt you were in your bed sit, eating cold beans at the time. After scoring half a percent of the popular vote, the whole things folded, leaving you high and dry! How much did that little excise cost you, or should I say the taxpayer, a fortnights pension ah? No fool like an old fool. Ha!

I wonder if Albanese (wonder if he knows how to spell apologise?) asked President Trump how he could get Darwin harbour back from Communist China.

Albanese promised to get it back prior to the election. He probably doesn’t have the brains - or the knackers - to see it through. I’m sure that Trump could have given him some tips.

No Paul. You did not make “a” typo: you misspelt the word twice. Your spelling and writing ability is appalling, all the time.

Now, you have accused me of being a welfare fraud, a criminal. I could take steps to hunt you down and instigate legal proceedings against you, but any decent lawyer would try for a not a not guilty verdict due to insanity. Just a quick look at your posts over the years would be enough evidence that you are as mad as a meataxe.

And, by the way, you know nothing about my finances. I have an excellent financial advisor, and I don’t have to live off the pension as you keep telling me I do. However, anyone who does is entitled to it. Your obsession with people who are pensioners is just another example of your hypocrisy in claiming to be a Green socialist.

Is this jerk some sort of academic or just struggling for words.
I think they will end up one nation with the rest of the radicles. White AU and the rest of the jargon that goes on, even though they have blacks involved.
That's enough to make TBBT to stay hard right to the last man.
Some just cannot deal with change. Us darkies get more benefits than you English imports. Thank you very much.

What, is ttbn your real name, who is "me", "I (Mr Anonymous) could take steps to hunt you down and instigate legal proceedings" what an idiot. That's where you are wrong, as you post anonymously you can't claim that the real you is being libelled. Whose your lawyer Dennis Denuto. "I have an excellent financial advisor" In Australia it adviser, not advisor. Since you're living of us taxpayers on aged welfare, I assume your financial adviser has his office in the boot of a 1964 Holden. What sort of financial advice do you get, tips on the Randwick races?

"I assume your financial adviser has his office in the boot of a 1964 Holden."
- A nice EH premier would be worth a few dollars now.

I recently came across Arthur Schoepenhauer's article on winning arguments and the corrupt tactics involved, including the "Mott and Bailey attack".

Woke Marxist's insist on labelling Traditionalist's, the original social structure, as Far Right or Extreme Right or Hard Right mud slinging in a biased virtue signalling attempt to shift the Overton Window of "acceptable" political dialogue in their extremist direction. Sadly normal people, although they sense that something is wrong, don't seem to understand the nature of the danger.

Woke Marxist's in a cowardly attempt to avoid certain rational discussions, attempt to label these discussion's as Nazism and Fascism, to avoid actually having a constructive debate/ conversation about the actual issues. A very few on the Traditionalist side seem to have come to the point of just admitting Nazism, that is claimed by the Woke Marxist's, whether they are or not, so they can get to the real issue. Like it or hate it, Hitler in his writings apparently did want to protect the German people, even if you disagree with his methods. When we bring up the even worse record of Marxism in the social sphere Woke Marxist's double down on their hateful outrage. If Marxist's want to talk about Hitler so much why don't we have a proper debate/ conversation about it- "call Marxism's bluff". The Muslim's throw stones at a black stone in Saudi Arabia, Marxist's and Hebrew's throw stones at Hitler, but I suppose he threw stones at them too, once upon a time. Interesting that Hitler was once an ally of the middle east.

It's well known that if you can set the agenda you can control or influence the outcome. Normal people need to be sure that extremist's aren't the ones creating the framework to determine what is appropriate, because that would corrupt the concept of the appropriate

The "problem with the Liberal Party" seems to stem from a problem with their constitution which "does not allow members to explicitly protect Anglo-Celtic people", in the name of anti-racism, in spite of the fact that Anglo-Celtic Australian's created Australia, and obviously any culture that doesn't explicitly protect itself is doomed to destruction, and it's citizen's nationless. But Marxist's hate all cultures (except their own) especially Anglo-Celtic ones. Sadly the Woke Marxist's seem to have baited Menzies Liberal Party into this constitution in the post WWII moralizing orgy. Every culture needs their own nation.

The history of the Libertarian/ Industrialist movement seems to contain both Libertarian's as well as the Traditionalist's that it replaced, before the rise of Marxism and it's variants after the French Revolution. Sadly the domination of the Libertarian Industrialist's has lost the faith of the Traditionalist's within the broader movement and now Parties such as the Liberal Party face a split and alienation of the stabilizing traditional components of the public.

It's interesting in the decline of workplace unionism (and traditional media) the Marxist's seem to have replaced the leadership vacuum. What other industry takeovers will the Marxist's target, in the shifting sands of western institutions.

Frank Kitson in Low Level Insurgency talks about the four stages of "Marxist Coup" tactics.

Others such as Aristotle, Hobbes, Patrick Deneen, and Confucist scholar Zhu Xi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhu_Xi) talk about the concept of "man tending to badness" and therefore needing to be encouraged through society to support "stable societal structures". They had the view that, because man was "naturally bad and destructive", society needs to be ordered in a way that produced good citizens, through education/ military service/ laws/ etc, that preserved societies structure. Others such as Locke and Mencius believed that man was "naturally good".

National Service seeks to ensure stability of the society by protecting it from foreign invaders and creating an awareness of foreign threats in the minds of it's population

Change isn't a necessarily a good thing, and is something that needs to be managed at each level, for stability. Of course an enemy will try and subvert the management of stability of a society. And this gets to the core of the complex nested structure of intelligence warfare.

Is therefore "John Daysh a traitor" working for a foreign power? Or is John Daysh just an actor that favours nihilism or other similarly unhelpful social cancer? Either way if you favour stability over chaos you will need to decide whether those seeking change are constructive, destructive, traitorous, bombastic, deceived, or otherwise and deal with them accordingly.

The oil and Suez are difficult issues for the West, because it means that difficult compromises need to be made. It means that the West can't move but it's enemies in the East can. If the battle array doesn't change eventually the West will lose.

Given the above how should we answer Paul1405's loaded question "Should The Hard Right Of The Coalition Join One Nation?" - Short answer is 'yes'- we should encourage the Traditionalist movement (what Paul1405 seems to call controversially "the Hard Right" but is in reality the oldest political structure) to broadly support each other in their common goals, breaking with Libertarian Industrialist's that have colluded with Marxist elements to repress Traditionalism and the public.

A healthy society is one in which people hold a range of views and don't feel that there might be repercussions for sharing them.
Fester,
The adverse to responsibility (ATR) Woke Left is counting on people becoming too afraid to speak up & the reprehensible tactic has worked for the parasites quite well.
Now that the coffers are running low it's actually getting more blatant but it looks like people are beginning to start thinking like those in that European country all those years ago. Then it was the inbred hierarchy causing the problems & now it's the inbred Woke here in particular !